September 15, 1999 Palace Class held by Hank
Opening Log
Gyrithe©: Hello Psyklone
Lilady©: hi
Ahree^^^: Tal Shaia sweety
Gyrithe©: wb Hank
Mad Daddy: :Thnx Bratty
Obi: hi Shaia
Katt: hiyas shaia
Psyklone^^^: hi all
Ahree^^^: Hi ya Sunset
.ßhaia[Try's]^^: Tal Ahree ~smile~
Obi: HI Psyklone
Ahree^^^: smiles
Katt: hiyas phyklone
Ahree^^^: Tal Psy
*** You now have god privileges.
Katt: and joy
Gyrithe©: Hello Joy
~Joy©Æ: allo :)
Katt: hey matt
~Joy©Æ: how is everyone?
matt snow: hiya Katt
Sunset©: hey joyster
~Joy©Æ: hey hey Sunny :)
Mad Daddy: Hi Joy, Sunset, Shaia (smile)
~Joy©Æ: :da boss is here
~Joy©Æ: lol
Bratô: hiya all you new entrants
Sunset©: hello mad daddy
~Joy©Æ: hiya Hank
Sunset©: hiya Brat
Trystan[ß]^^^: nice and coze here huh? ~stupid grin~
.ßhaia[Try's]^^: Waving at everyone coming in
Hank: :now I can see over the podium
.ßhaia[Try's]^^: grinning
~Joy©Æ: :lol you shorty you, Hank
matt snow: :poop, i forgot an apple for the teacher
Katt: hi zesis
Mad Daddy: Hi Zesis
Ahree^^^: Tal Z
~Joy©Æ: hiya Zesis
Ahree^^^: smiles
Obi: hiya Zesis
Hank: :extra homework for Matt
.ßhaia[Try's]^^: Tal Zesis
~Joy©Æ: lol
Bratô: hiya Zesis
matt snow: :uh oh
SwtNita:
Katt: hehe hank
Zesis^^: <s> knew it would be Hankie Pankie
Katt: hi nita
SwtNita: hello everyone
~Joy©Æ: :i got an apple here somewhere, i'm sure
Obi: !nita
Mad Daddy: Hi Nita (Hugz)
SwtNita: Howdy, Gyrithe, Lilady, Katt, Lance, Ahree^^^,
Brat, Trystan[ß]^^^, Obi, Red, Sunset, .ßhaia[Try's]^^, Mad Daddy,
Psy, Hank, ~Joy, matt snow and Zesis^^
Hank: :there will be no hanky panky till after class
SwtNita: aww hugz MD nice to see you hon
~Joy©Æ: hi SwtNita
Katt: heh
SwtNita: aww hank take all the fun outa it
Sunset©: hello SwtNita
matt snow: hiya swtnita
~Joy©Æ: Sunny ya got small av?
Gyrithe©: :do that mean there bil bee AFTER class than?? ;)
Sunset©: i am looking
Obi: :spank hank??? sounds like screen capture time
Gyrithe©: :will even
Sunset©: i was a yellow ball for so long
Sunset©: lol
~Joy©Æ: lol
Trystan[ß]^^^: lol
matt snow: :we all get to pank hank after class
* Hank * ;ao [ -1329583212 ] SETPROPS
Zesis^^: :not even from your favorite snake?
Katt: lol
~Joy©Æ: i have a few if ya need
SwtNita: LOL Matt
.ßhaia[Try's]^^: lol Psy
~Joy©Æ: oh my ...it's DA eye
Ahree^^^: here Z have this cornor
Obi: :sucked in again
Zesis^^: Thanks Ahree....<s>
Katt: heh
SwtNita: OBI!!! hiya kiddo
Ahree^^^: yw, hon
Obi: kisses nita : )
Hank: ok we can get started and let people show up when they want
SwtNita: how ya doing hon??? nice to see you again
Hank: For anyone I haven't met I'm Hank and I'm the Ops
Manager at Chatserve
Hank: Lance there is one of our techs
~Joy©Æ: hi Lance :)
Zesis^^: :Hi Lance
Mad Daddy: :Hiya's Hank and Lance
SwtNita: hiya Lance
Lilady©: hi lance
Trystan[ß]^^^: wavers
Ahree^^^: Hi
Sunset©: hiya lance
SwtNita: hiya Hank good to see you again
matt snow: hiya lance
Lance: hi all
Hank: let's start by everyone sayin their name and what
palace they're from
Bratô: hiya hank and lance
Lance: nice to meet you all!
SwtNita: Nita with Crystal Ranch
Lilady©: Lilady...Love Connections
Katt: Katt with Summertree
~Joy©Æ: want this one Sunny
Zesis^^: Zesis, Lara
~Joy©Æ: Joy with Xtasy
Ahree^^^: Arey from Lara
.ßhaia[Try's]^^: Shaia from Lara
matt snow: Matt from Belt Loop
Hank: :no need to take turns - shout it out
Gyrithe©: Anne Gyrithe - Utopia
Bratô: Brat.. MyCorner/Lady Luck
Trystan[ß]^^^: Trystan Lara
Obi: Obi/ Lexicon's Labyrinth
Redô: Red, my Corner©
Mad Daddy: Mad Daddy ....LadyLuck
Sunset©: Sunset from Xtasy
Psy: Psy, Lara
Hank: ok guess that's everybody
Hank: ok first a few news articles
Mad Daddy: :Why did wee have to say our name?
Hank: :cuz I'm the teacher and I said so
SwtNita: LOL
Katt: hehe
~Joy©Æ: :fine
Lilady©: lol
Mad Daddy: Okay
Ahree^^^: lol
matt snow: :ooooo
SwtNita: roll call
Bratô: :behave, MD!
Mad Daddy: :pout
SwtNita: aww MD behave?? no fun
Hank: anyway - first news item
~Joy©Æ: ^raising hand
Hank: One of our providors - GlobalCenter - had a major
problem at thei Santa Clara Operations Center this mormning
Hank: so we had a small lag storm for a couple hours
SwtNita: :uh huh
Sunset©: :yes we did
~Joy©Æ: oooooo
Ahree^^^: yup
~Joy©Æ: :noticed
matt snow: :lag storm shields up
Hank: I called them and told them I was gonna have each
of you come visit them and they fixed it
Sunset©: haha
~Joy©Æ: LOL
Ahree^^^: lol
matt snow: hehe
Lilady©: lol
~Joy©Æ: atta boy!
Katt: :good job
Bratô: :heh
Obi: put my plane ticket on your expense account
Lufthansa pls *wink*
~Joy©Æ: lol
Zesis^^: scaring them with the thought of you visiting alone
would have worked, Hankie
Hank: if any of you is the type that does traces - when
you see lag at BBN or GlobalCenter - please message me right away
SwtNita: LOL Zesis
Hank: those are the folks I can reach out and touch
matt snow: okeis hank
Sunset©: :ok
Hank: if it's AOL - yur on yur own:-)
SwtNita: :traces?
Sunset©: :or slap
Lilady©: k
~Joy©Æ: lol
Bratô: :so noted
~Joy©Æ: :spank Hank
Hank: :slapping is good in most cases :-)
SwtNita: LOL
Ahree^^^: lol
Hank: ok - server news
Mad Daddy: :people really use AOL?
Sunset©: :sad, ain't it
Hank: the last palace upgraded to 4.3.2 last night
Hank: )applause
Obi: yipeee
Gyrithe©: :dont know what aol is
SwtNita: :LOL
Obi: pinkys I bet
Hank: yup :-)
Sunset©: :it's a version of hell Gyr
Gyrithe©: :oh
Mad Daddy: :sure was painful
matt snow: :i updated to ms-dos 5.3
Obi: LOL hank forgot to mention im from there too
Hank: we will be goin over the new 4.3.2 commands today
~Joy©Æ: ^q
Hank: also - one security note
Hank: we have a really active bad guy named Slag
SwtNita: doing?
Mad Daddy: :bad stuff
Hank: he has been going around harassing and threatening people
~Joy©Æ: :sounds like someone i know
Hank: nothin really bad but he's a pain
matt snow: :lemme at 'im
Hank: ignore him - he's harmless
~Joy©Æ: didn't we get email bout him?
Hank: :I will be talkin to his daddy after class
SwtNita: :note--check email
~Joy©Æ: :o
Obi: ^suggestion for hanks cgi guru
~Joy©Æ: lol Nita
Hank: in a minute Obi
Obi: k
Hank: ok - so that I can know what to cover - everyone
just shout out their favorite topics for today
SwtNita: :uhh all of them?
Ahree^^^: lol
Sunset©: :cybering
Hank: :ok :-)
Sunset©: :j/k
Katt: hehe
Hank: :I don't do cyber
Obi: ;perking up
SwtNita: ;drats
Trystan[ß]^^^: server commands and server plugins like gatekeeper
Sunset©: :i was kidding
Mad Daddy: :Women in small swimsuits
Zesis^^: :mush
Hank: :can barely type with both hands
matt snow: eigen-vibration factors
Redô: ^?
Katt: lol
Ahree^^^: lol
Hank: ah yes plugins
~Joy©Æ: :my virgin ears
Hank: ok - a few new things in 4.3.2 for those who have
not played with the new stuff
SwtNita: :gosh he knows me
Hank: if anyone wants to god up here the godpass for this
class is qsx3fty
*** Page from System: ~Joy©Æ made god
*** Page from System: Sunset© made god
*** Page from System: Obi made god
*** Page from System: SwtNita made god
~Joy©Æ: :i feel so powerful now
*** Page from System: Trystan[ß]^^^ made god
Hank: I'll give everyone a minute to god up
~Joy©Æ: woooo hooooooo, let's raid this place!
Gyrithe©: :I would like to hear your advise if I should use a
new server code or just let the old one stay?
matt snow: how do you spell that?
*** Page from System: Mad Daddy made god
*** Page from System: Katt made god
Sunset©: can we disable joy's kill feature?
~Joy©Æ: :copy and paste
SwtNita: lol matt
Trystan[ß]^^^: Shaia god up
~Joy©Æ: hey now!
Sunset©: hehe
Hank: ok Gyrithe
*** Page from System: Zesis^^ made god
Redô: ^?
*** Page from System: Psy made god
*** Page from System: Ahree^^^ made god
*** Page from System: Lilady© made god
*** Page from System: Bratô made god
Hank: ok - a good news item - the new server licenses
*** Page from System: Gyrithe© made god
*** Page from System: Lance made god
Obi: use the new because ec will support ot longer is my opinion
Hank: everyone knows CC is now selling "unlimited" licenses
Hank: a lot of people have asked what that means here
Hank: basically - no change
Hank: we still have the 50 user and 100 user levels of service
*** Page from System: .ßhaia[Try's]^^ made god
Hank: we'd love to let everyone cut loose with the
unlimited licenses - but they don't make servers that big :-)
Katt: heh
~Joy©Æ: awwww
Hank: so - set your maxserverocc to whatever your service
contract is
Gyrithe©: That mean I can let the old reg stay...no need to
mess with it?
Hank: yes Gyr
Gyrithe©: okay :)
Hank: now - 4.3.2
Hank: the first thing you'll notice in 4.3.2 is when you
kill someone it does it twice
matt snow: just in case they're still alive
Katt: hehehe
~Joy©Æ: )Bagpipes.wav
Hank: it is killing both the PUID and the reg key - to
save you work
SwtNita: :cuz im a lousy shot
~Joy©Æ: :good good
matt snow: hehe
Gyrithe©: :How to we keep people out who uses invalid codes?
Hank: also - a lot of you have those scripts at your
palaces for turning off hide and rejectprivate at login
Hank: you can toss those - that bug is fixed
SwtNita: kewl
Trystan[ß]^^^: !WOOHOO
Hank: let me know if you see otherwise
Hank: ok - a new command
Gyrithe©: I deletet that script some time ago...
Gyrithe©: And have had no problems :)
Hank: anyone ever wanted to know what something is set to
on yur palace?
SwtNita: y
Katt: yep
Hank: try this - 'reportprefs
Lilady©: yes
SwtNita: wow
Katt: wow indeed
matt snow: :kewl
Hank: it tells you what EVERYTHING is set to
Gyrithe©: :Impressive
Katt: very good
Mad Daddy: Coolest
SwtNita: and those setting can be changed?
Hank: ok - the last new command is called setrank
Lance: great command
Trystan[ß]^^^: i like setrank
Hank: you use it to determine who can do what
Hank: like say you don't want wizzes to be able to kill
Obi: :excpt author
Hank: you would type 'setrank 'kill 3
Gyrithe©: what do Authentication means?
Hank: it's a "future feature" gyr
Hank: yes Obi you can control access to author
Gyrithe©: oh
Hank: anyway - the "ranks" are.......
Hank: 0=guest
Hank: 1=member
Hank: 2=wiz
Hank: 3=god
Hank: so say you don't want yur wizzes authoring
Hank: you turn authoring off by ytping 'authoring off
Trystan[ß]^^^: lol
Gyrithe©: would setting author to only god level...give the
same protection as setting it to off....when I am not present?
matt snow: :i see a trend here
Trystan[ß]^^^: not setrank
Hank: then you make it so the wiizzes cannot turn it back
on by typing
Hank: 'setrank 'authoring 3
~Joy©Æ: isn't authoring a god's command?
Obi: lol thats exactly what i meant
Gyrithe©: Yes it is Joy
Hank: or say you do want your wizzes to be able to shutdown
Lilady©: ^?
Hank: you would type 'setrank 'shutdown 2
Gyrithe©: :Think shutdown is a god only command too?
~Joy©Æ: :yes
Sunset©: :it is at my place
Hank: :you can change it to wiz if ya want
Obi: yuhuh
~Joy©Æ: ah
Trystan[ß]^^^: so is uplist downlist and flushprops
~Joy©Æ: okie
Hank: ya'all get the general idea right?
matt snow: yeppers
SwtNita: somewhat
Ahree^^^: can it be selective?
Mad Daddy: :Yep
Sunset©: yup
~Joy©Æ: :i'm not taking notes, really
Hank: questions nita?
~Joy©Æ: :Sunset is
Bratô: :uh-huh
Gyrithe©: I would very much like to have my wizards beeing
able to restart the server...is that possible in any way??
Obi: just wish you could set authoring to god only
without having to turn it off and on when you author
Katt: if i have authoring off.. but want wizzes to be
able to turn it back on.. type setrank author 2?
Hank: they would need your user utility password Gyr
SwtNita: is there a way of having 2 levels of wiz's?? some
that can author and some cant??
Hank: yes Kat
~Joy©Æ: :good question
Katt: excellent
Sunset©: i'm with obi on the author thing
Hank: no Nita
SwtNita: k
Obi: lol nita god wizads *wink*
Hank: sorry :-)
Gyrithe©: Yes...that I do not want....But I suggest you some
day make it possible somehow...without giving them any other access :)
Hank: we would have to create multiple accounts for
everyone to do that Gyr
matt snow: that's an unknown future feature Nita
~Joy©Æ: i vote for Gyr for president
~Joy©Æ: :heh
Katt: heh
SwtNita: i need that matt LOL
Redô: ^?
~Joy©Æ: multiple is good........
~Joy©Æ: :in some cases
Hank: is restart the ONLY thing you want wizzes to have
access to from user utilities?
Gyrithe©: Yes
Sunset©: yes
Lilady©:
Hank: no log access?
SwtNita: no
Sunset©: no
Hank: is everyone unanimous on that?
~Joy©Æ: yep
Gyrithe©: :reason is I cant affort to be online as much as I
want...and it would be nice if a wiz could try restart...if needed
SwtNita: exactly G
Obi: log access is good but i dont mind not having it available
Sunset©: that's why i want it too
Gyrithe©: No, no logaccess
Hank: well we could do a couple things
~Joy©Æ: :kewl
Sunset©: :hop on it
Hank: 1) find another password protected mechanism for restart
~Joy©Æ: heh
Hank: 2) make the palaces restart themselves if they fail
~Joy©Æ: oooohhhhhhhh
SwtNita: how?
Sunset©: i like thta betta
~Joy©Æ: that would be great
SwtNita: sure would
Hank: we use a function called cron
Gyrithe©: Make it restart automatically could give a problem...
Trystan[ß]^^^: i would like the cron restart
Obi: no i dont like that option because it might cause
further corruption
SwtNita: how G?
Hank: why Gyr?
~Joy©Æ: hmmm?
Gyrithe©: Would be no good if it try restart in the middle of
me changing the dat
Redô: ^?
Hank: true
SwtNita: could it restart in a "safe mode" like my windows
likes to do?
Obi: bingo
Hank: well I'll look at options and see what we can do
Obi: Gyr hit it on the head
Hank: maybe an email bot
Sunset©: you should be able to disable the restart if you
are gonna do sumpin
Sunset©: like the dat
Hank: hmm - ok
SwtNita: yes would be good
~Joy©Æ: i vote for Sunset as president
Hank: so - auto restart that you can turn off
~Joy©Æ: :lol lotsopresidents today
SwtNita: :joy as sec. she already has a desk
Gyrithe©: thats a possibillity
Sunset©: i think that would work
~Joy©Æ: :haha
Hank: ok let me see what we can come up with
~Joy©Æ: :where's Monica when ya need her
Obi: cron job to email wizfails too?? *hint* : )
SwtNita: can you do a 2nd wiz level to hank?
Mad Daddy: :don't ask Joy
~Joy©Æ: lol Mad Daddy
Sunset©: lol
~Joy©Æ: :ok
Hank: emailing wizfails is overkill - we can give you the
tools to find those in the log
Gyrithe©: :Loghelp do that very well :)
Hank: Nita - that's a limitation of the software - not
something I can change
SwtNita: ok
Hank: talk to CC about that one
Sunset©: :right
SwtNita: gimme phone number?
Sunset©: :talk to the hand
~Joy©Æ: :Lance is too quiet
matt snow: c, cc ryder
~Joy©Æ: yo Lance?
Hank: ok - the biggest feature of 4.3.2 is plugins
~Joy©Æ: ok being quiet now
Mad Daddy: Hmmm
Hank: yes Red?
Redô: Since you started to mention plug-ins a bit ago .... .
Mad Daddy: LOL
Hank: ya gettin to that now
Redô: What is the "occumon.so" file referenced in my
plugins.conf file and will additional plugins be added as you see
fit(and they become available) or will we ...
Redô: server operators be notified that the plugin is
available before it is randomkly assumed that 'we want to use it'?
SwtNita: translation obi?
Hank: :getting to that
Redô: :waiting/....
Obi: LOL hank will translate in english : )
Mad Daddy: :scary stuff
~Joy©Æ: :oh boy
~Joy©Æ: here we go
Hank: ok - plugins is a new thing in 4.3.2 that lets us
add features
Hank: the first one is what red referred to
Hank: occumon
Gyrithe©: :For the wishlist: A class where we learn all
about the plug inns....I know nothing about it at all :(
Redô: :occupancy monitor
Hank: we put that in to monitor activity on each server -
to find load problems and glitches
~Joy©Æ: :k another vote for Gyr
Gyrithe©: :lol
Hank: it simply tells us how many people are on each server
Hank: the next plugin is gatekeeper
Trystan[ß]^^^: :NODING
Hank: everyone heard of it?
SwtNita: nope
matt snow: :i am the keymaster
Sunset©: no
~Joy©Æ: :no
Mad Daddy: :big brother
Lilady©: no
Redô:
Gyrithe©: :know very little ablot it
SwtNita: :red knows everything
Hank: gatekeper allows you to set up a list of known
wizards and gods
Gyrithe©: :About
Redô: no ...
matt snow: it's from tupperware
SwtNita: lol
Hank: anyone not on the list cannot wiz or god up - even
with the password
Sunset©: ohhhh
~Joy©Æ: :psst Lance, while Hank is busy typing.......
Sunset©: so no hacking
Gyrithe©: How do I set that up??
Trystan[ß]^^^: will this feature be installed?
Gyrithe©: :Sounds usefull :)
Hank: we've given it out to a few palaces that had
security problems
SwtNita: is it already?
Obi: sounds good on the surface...
Hank: we are releasing it next week
SwtNita: and how do we access it?
Hank: there is a web page you go to and turn on gatekeeper
Hank: then restart your server
Gyrithe©: Is it a pluginn from AIC or CC?
Trystan[ß]^^^: smile, will it have its own password athentication?
Hank: Gatekeeper was written by CC
SwtNita: will access email the url?
Hank: yes we will
SwtNita: k
Hank: here's how gatekeeper works
*** Page from System: ~Joy©Æ has logged off, 15 wizards remain(including you)
*** Page from System: Psy has logged off, 14 wizards remain(including you)
Hank: once you have it on .......
*** Page from System: Lilady© has logged off, 13 wizards remain(including you)
Hank: to register a wiz - whisper "gatekeeper bless"
Hank: to unregister a wiz - whisper "gatekeeper unbless"
*** Page from System: .ßhaia[Try's]^^ has logged off, 12 wizards
remain(including you)
SwtNita: :lag
*** Page from System: Obi has logged off, 11 wizards remain(including you)
Hank: to see who's registered type "gatekeeper list"
Sunset©: if someone changes their name to a wiz's name they
could still wiz up though?
*** Page from System: Bratô has logged off, 10 wizards remain(including you)
Hank: no - it keys off their reg key
Mad Daddy: :dropping like flies
.ªßJ´.: laggin thats why
SwtNita: yes
Ahree^^^: ....
Hank: everyone still here?
Trystan[ß]^^^: any god can bless?
Gyrithe©: I am
Sunset©: ok
Hank: everybody say Yo:-)
Mad Daddy: Yo
.ªßJ´.: gatekeeper rules
Trystan[ß]^^^: !YO
Sunset©: yo
Lilady©: ya
.ªßJ´.: yo
Ahree^^^: yo
.ªßJ´.: ag lag
Sunset©: ho and a bottle of rum
Sunset©: can we lose the animated av's?
Gyrithe©: :dont know what yo means...better not say it ;)
Katt: yo
Obi: freaking gateway1 frankfurt again
Hank: ok any questions on gatekeeper or plugins in general?
Mad Daddy: Not just you Obi
Ahree^^^: yo
Ahree^^^: yo
Ahree^^^: yo
Trystan[ß]^^^: yes
Lilady©: test
Hank: go ahead
Trystan[ß]^^^: any god can bless then?
SwtNita: lag is bad again
Hank: yes
Trystan[ß]^^^: noding
Obi: sorry missed a bit- is gatekeeper generally
available/what is cost?
Katt: test
Gyrithe©: :Might have questions when I have seen it :)
Sunset©: Hank... joy can't get back in
Hank: Gatekeeper is free
Lilady©: missed it
Hank: what do you mean can't get in?
Trystan[ß]^^^: :perk FREE
.ªßJ´.: the website wont connect
Sunset©: she thinks she is ghosted here
Mad Daddy: :refused connection?
Sunset©: :animation encourages lag
Hank: the web site is fine SJ
Obi: chatserve installs plugins or can I do it from my
shell account?
*** Page from System: Zesis^^ has logged off, 9 wizards remain(including you)
Hank: there will be a web page Obi
Hank: you just check a box
Obi: ok ty hank
Trystan[ß]^^^: :will be means not one now
Hank: yes it is there now Tryst
Lilady©: if i have ?'s i will email
.ªßJ´.: ?
.ªßJ´.: ...
.ªßJ´.: i dunno im like laggin n all today
.ªßJ´.: i dunno whats goin on
SwtNita: laggg
Trystan[ß]^^^: we will get a amail for the public rolout then?
Hank: yes
Mad Daddy: No lag here
Katt: test
Trystan[ß]^^^: noding
Gyrithe©: :I fully trust the webpage will be as easy to use
as AIC's webpages alwayes are :)
Ahree^^^: lots ppl complain they cant get in
.ªßJ´.: .
Sunset©: yes i like the AIC webpage ease
Mad Daddy: :Hank looks frustrated
Obi: ;test
Ahree^^^: greetings pilar
matt snow: sorry, i was expelled
Mad Daddy: :Hi Pilar
Gyrithe©: :Thank you for some great and 'easy to use' webpages AIC :))
Hank: waiting for everyone to work out their lag problems
*** Page from System: SwtNita has logged off, 8 wizards remain(including you)
Mad Daddy: WB Matt, Obi
.ªßJ´.: brb
matt snow: thanks MD
Sunset©: wb everyone
Trystan[ß]^^^: :no lag here
Ahree^^^: sheeshhhhh
SwtNita:
Redô: :a trace was emailed when I crashed
Lilady©: test
matt snow: actually, my winsock lost
Mad Daddy: WB Red, Nita
Redô: tx
SwtNita: ty did i miss anything?
Lilady©: awwww hank
.ßhaia[Try's]^^: :think lag is over
Katt: test
Katt: ahhh better
Trystan[ß]^^^: ping
matt snow: smile hank
Sunset©: just a bunch of poofing SwtNita
Ahree^^^: smiles
SwtNita: kk ty sunset
Lilady©: )kiss !Sweet Hot Lips for you Baby!!
*** ; Lilady© is Painting
Ahree^^^: gigglin
Lilady©: cheer up
Hank: ok we all back?
Lilady©: i am so far
*** ; Hank is Erasing
Ahree^^^: yep here
matt snow: where's Joy?
Hank: ok to recdap
Sunset©: well, she found a hunk on a palace she could get into
Hank: gatekeeper and the other plugins are free
Redô: Brat's not back, but who knows ....
matt snow: heh
Sunset©: guess she will be back when she is done
Mad Daddy: Obi abd Red are back, that's a good start
Hank: you will go to a web page and turn on the ones you want
matt snow: plug us in Hank
Hank: then restart
Trystan[ß]^^^: there are 2 currently?
Hank: there will be a detailed webpage with instructions for each
SwtNita: so?? shutdown. plug-in then restart?
Gyrithe©: what do recdap do?
Katt: good
Hank: 3 actually
Lilady©: cool
Hank: Red di I answer yur question about occumon?
matt snow: wb Joy
SwtNita: wb joy
~Joy©Æ: don't believe a word she says
matt snow: :how was it?
Sunset©: :she's done
Lilady©: wb
Obi: wb joy
~Joy©Æ: :lol
Ahree^^^: Psy is having problems says all is black and muted
Mad Daddy: lol
~Joy©Æ: thanki :)
SwtNita: wb SJ
.ªßJ´.: thanks =}
~Joy©Æ: how come i couldn't log on to chatserve?
Hank: red?
~Joy©Æ: uh uh uh?
Redô: I'd just as soon edit the danged plugins.conf and
be done with it, is that possible?..are permissions set such that we
can do that?
Hank: there was a network problem I suspect Joy
~Joy©Æ: :sorry bout my back
* .ªßJ´. * how can i get props r us ip so i can traceroute
~Joy©Æ: you look pissed Hank
~Joy©Æ: :heh
Hank: editing the file directly is not good
Obi: the lag starts at s0-1-1.br4.SNV.globalcenter.net
Redô: :because?
Hank: because you can screw it up
matt snow: :shields down to 30%
Sunset©: :trust him
Mad Daddy: :someone did a traceroute
~Joy©Æ: lol matt
SwtNita: lol matt
* .ªßJ´. * nm
matt snow: wb zesis
SwtNita: wb Z
Ahree^^^: wb Z
~Joy©Æ: re's Zesis
matt snow: :back up to 18 peeps
Obi: wb Z
Hank: amd because it requires root permissions
Sunset©: wb Z
Mad Daddy: :wb z
Zesis^^: odd, never left on my screen....<s>
~Joy©Æ: :Hank is smokin good shit..i want some of that
SwtNita: lol
.ªßJ´.: lol
Ahree^^^: lol
Hank: huh?
~Joy©Æ: :heh
* Redô * :I've been a systems analyst/programmer for 20
years, Hank .. i _think_ I can edit a damned file
SwtNita: share hank?
~Joy©Æ: just teasin
Sunset©: :he has to in order to put up with us
~Joy©Æ: :typo?
matt snow: *cough cough*
~Joy©Æ: yes that's true
Hank: Red - the file requires root permissions
.ªßJ´.: well that slag guy is givin him trouble
Redô: ok, thank you
Redô: :askwed that originally as I recall
Hank: and I have to set up my systems for people who are
not sys admins
Redô: right
Redô: understand
SwtNita: wb psy
Trystan[ß]^^^: means security whole
Ahree^^^: wb Psy
Psy: thanx
matt snow: :wiring netbus to hanks's system
SwtNita: lol matt
Gyrithe©: :Why not just give us all root permission? :)
Hank: any other questions about plugins?
Sunset©: :checking to see that my lockdown is on
Hank: :oh sure Gyr :-)
.ªßJ´.: hank is their a plugin
Gyrithe©: :Smiling now
.ªßJ´.: that allows the cyberg name not be on the server
Zesis^^: :hi baby.
Obi: LOL snail him a server and Im sure hed be glad to
Trystan[ß]^^^: cuz with like 3 key strokes we could flaten it
Hank: no - but we could write one
Mad Daddy: :hank has netbus detective, the major memory hog
.ªßJ´.: that would be great
Hank: speakin of security
Hank: there is a major announcemnet from CC
Hank: everybody get it?
matt snow: :drum roll
SwtNita: :uh oh
Obi: y
Katt: yep
.ªßJ´.: yes
.ªßJ´.: i think
Trystan[ß]^^^: nope
Ahree^^^: nope
Lilady©: i think
SwtNita: nope
matt snow: no sir
Pilar: nope
Sunset©: i dont think so
Hank: seems some talented folks hacked the PC client
Sunset©: and?
Sunset©: no more ads???
Hank: they made it so they can clone AV's
Sunset©: can i meet them?
Trystan[ß]^^^: wiz powers i ear
Hank: no they do not have wiz powers
.ªßJ´.: ye and 1 of em wont leave my server alone
Gyrithe©: I read it this morning
matt snow: :not me
Gyrithe©: :Am thinking of making author off...to make sure
nothing happens
Hank: it is the same as the old hacked mac client - it
turns on the wiz menu but does not give wiz power
.ªßJ´.: they can author also
~Joy©Æ: :test
Hank: what the hacked client does do is..........
Obi: test
matt snow: how do we protect our palaces from that?
Hank: 1) they can clone props
Pilar: Greetings Trystan, Psy, Ahree
.ªßJ´.: turn athor off
Hank: 2) they can see but not change room scripts
Hank: 3) they can change the settings in a room
Sunset©: :oh dear
Hank: but the changes go back when they leave
.ßhaia[Try's]^^: Greetings Pilar
Mad Daddy: :that sux
~Joy©Æ: hmmmmm
Sunset©: :whew
Hank: so - what do you do about it?
~Joy©Æ: :tell us
.ªßJ´.: keep author off
.ªßJ´.: lol
Gyrithe©: But then its too late...they have seen all passwords
Obi: global center may get a call from germany soon.........GRRRR
Hank: 1) there is nothing you can do right now about the cloning
~Joy©Æ: no they have not
.ªßJ´.: wear this
Hank: no - they cannot see a password
~Joy©Æ: hahahaha SJ
Katt: lol sj
Gyrithe©: Yes, I mean any passwords I have in scripts
~Joy©Æ: kewl!
.ªßJ´.: it helps
Hank: Gyrthie - even you cannot see a password
Ahree^^^: lol
Gyrithe©: :I have password protected rooms and so
Hank: yes - passwords in scripts they can see
SwtNita: in scripts for private rooms you mean?
SwtNita: k
Hank: so what you do is....
Hank: turn authoring off when you are not actually authoring
Hank: then they can not see or change anything
Gyrithe©: Okay...will do so after this meeting
~Joy©Æ: ok
Gyrithe©: :At least for some time
Obi: :you could use prop keys toodont use name use prop id
~Joy©Æ: I do it all the time but "someone" turns it back on again
Mad Daddy: What if wizzes are set to turn author on?
Gyrithe©: Only Gods can turn it back on
Sunset©: any way to make it so that when the person who
turned authoring on leaves it goes back on
~Joy©Æ: :i know
Hank: then use setrank so they can't
Sunset©: :i always forget to turn it back off
Mad Daddy: Ouch
~Joy©Æ: :pointing at Sunset
~Joy©Æ: ok at least she admits it
~Joy©Æ: :heh
Hank: This is actually a pretty big deal and CC is workin on it
Sunset©: ^guilty
Obi: use a disconnect script that syas author off?
Mad Daddy: NS
~Joy©Æ: @477,51 !)kiss Smooch!
*** ; ~Joy©Æ is Painting
* .ªßJ´. * do you know why every other half n hour pru lags to deatj?
Hank: almost all wiz/god functions are executed by the
server - so the hacked client cannot use them
Sunset©: :think lag joy
Gyrithe©: :Guess a script, ON LEAVE could be written for that Obi
Hank: cloning is done at the client - so they can do that
~Joy©Æ: :sowwy sheesh
Hank: basically - any of the ~ commands they can use
Trystan[ß]^^^: on leave script not good either
Obi: yuhuh gyr thats what i was suggesting
Obi: but on disconnect
Hank: turning authoring off when you are not using it is
something you shud get into the habit of anyway
Trystan[ß]^^^: yes
Gyrithe©: :No 'on disconnect' command in itpscray
Mad Daddy: :bummer
Hank: :she's right
Hank: ok - general questions
Obi: meant turn author on and blast off easy to do ill
email it to ya later if ya want
Obi: off even LOL
Gyrithe©: :I will simply teach myself alwayes to turn it of
when I leave
Sunset©: ok
Hank: :answer to the first question - yes we are on the
phone checking that lag storm and it's fixed
Sunset©: :i been trying for over a year... can't seem to remember
~Joy©Æ: lol Sunny
Redô: :thanks
Ahree^^^: can setrank be selective to seperate wizzs
Hank: :gonna send y'all over to talk to Chris at GlobalCenter
Hank: nope - just by "ranks"
~Joy©Æ: ^comment
Sunset©: :cool, lemme at him
Hank: yes Joy?
Ahree^^^: nope
~Joy©Æ: ^comment
Sunset©: so can we have two ranks of wiz's?
SwtNita: LOL will he be hapy to see us??
Gyrithe©: :I would like to see the mailinglist soon come to live :)
Sunset©: and set it that way?
Mad Daddy: Ni Sun
Mad Daddy: No even
Hank: ya I hope to have that up soon Gyr
Sunset©: :speak joy
Hank: Sunset - you have 4 ranks to play with - that's all
the software provides
Sunset©: ok
SwtNita: LAG
Gyrithe©: :I run a mailinglist...if anyone is interested in
using that till AIC is ready to go with theirs
Sunset©: i always want more... sigh
Obi: :imagining an ISWIZARD and USERNAME script in
everyroom and turning green
Hank: Joy?
Sunset©: she is lagging
SwtNita: wb matt
~Joy©Æ: i like the email linking to previous classes
~Joy©Æ: :and i'm laggin
SwtNita: :hate laggggg
matt snow: :sigh
matt snow: thanks nita
Hank: other general questions?
Gyrithe©: I have an order :)
Hank: ok
Ahree^^^: kk
Ahree^^^: .
Ahree^^^: :hm fixed, HUH???
Ahree^^^: sheeshhh
Gyrithe©: :lol
Trystan[ß]^^^: what is the rollout date for the plugins?
Gyrithe©: Get the scriptlibrary started soon :)
Hank: I can let ya use them now if ya want
Hank: yes ma'am
Trystan[ß]^^^: OOooOOooOO
Gyrithe©: Smile
Trystan[ß]^^^: please
Sunset©: and thank you
Hank: ok - a few warnings here
Hank: first - you will see three plugins on the plugin page
Katt:
Hank: LEAVE THE ONE CALLED EVEIL FLY HEAD CURSE alone :-)
Hank: it was a test :-)
Trystan[ß]^^^: LOL
Gyrithe©: :making notes :)
Mad Daddy: :Don't push the red button
SwtNita: grrrr
Hank: go to www.accesscom.com/uutils/pal-plugins
Hank: check the box for Gatekeeper and hit submit
Hank: then restart your server
~Joy©Æ: :grrrrrrr
SwtNita: do we need to shut down first?
matt snow: i'm really sorry i keep poofing on ya's
Hank: then - log onto your palace and god up
Gyrithe©: Shot down before doing it...or just restart after?
~Joy©Æ: so do i
Ahree^^^: just one god need do this??
Hank: just restart after
Gyrithe©: k
Hank: ok - this is IMPORTANT
~Joy©Æ: matt?
matt snow: Joy?
~Joy©Æ: :oops...being quiet now
Hank: Gatekeeper will not kick in till after the first "bless"
Hank: after that - noone who has not been blessed can wiz or god up
Hank: :don't forget to bless yourself :-)
Obi: LOL
Gyrithe©: LOL
Hank: :it's hapened
SwtNita: and to do that?
Hank: :to me :-)
Ahree^^^: in a multi gid palace, just one god need do this??
SwtNita: wb Z
Ahree^^^: god
~Joy©Æ: ok i missed that part......so Sunset can do it for me?
Hank: any god can do it
Hank: so - anyone you know to be a wiz needs to be registered
Sunset©: i will do it for everyone joy
matt snow: "bless Bach and Ant and mom and dad and
Gyrithe©: :wonder if I can do it then?...I am a Goddess...no God ;)
Obi: is shutdown required IMMEDIATELY or can it wait?
Katt: heh
Hank: to do that - whisper to them "gatekeeper bless"
~Joy©Æ: :goddesses rule
Mad Daddy: :And little tommy too
Hank: OBI - Gatekeeper will load when you get around to restarting
~Joy©Æ: heh
Sunset©: cool
Obi: not pushing the button yet LOL...ok ty hank
Hank: ok - let me get through these instructions one time clean ok?
~Joy©Æ: yes yes
Gyrithe©: do you whisper it with or without the "" thingys?
Hank: so - you .........
~Joy©Æ: i promise i'll be quiet
SwtNita: ^?
SwtNita: damn
Hank: 1) go to the webpage and click the bos and hit submit
matt snow: nita's kodak moment
Hank: 2) restart your palace
SwtNita: shh
Hank: 3) go to your palace and god up
Hank: 4) whisper "gatekeeper bless" to any wizard or god
you want registered
Gyrithe©: do you whisper it with or without the "" thingys?
Hank: 5) bless yourself
Hank: without
SwtNita: ^?
Gyrithe©: k
~Joy©Æ: ya got that sunny?
~Joy©Æ: hehe hiya Luc :)
Hank: now - if you have a problem wiz and want to fire them.....
~Joy©Æ: :you're late
Gyrithe©: I have a question
Lucid©: :yea yea
Hank: type "gatekeeper unbless name"
Sunset©: yes
~Joy©Æ: kewl
~Joy©Æ: so like we don't need to change pw now?
Hank: if you want to see the list of blessed people -
type "gatekeeper list"
Hank: no need to change the password no
~Joy©Æ: :hate thinking bout new pw
Hank: one other important thing
Mad Daddy: Cool
~Joy©Æ: kewl!
Sunset©: can we unbless them without them being on ?
Hank: Gatekeeper triggers off of reg key
Gyrithe©: I know AIC can...in emergency case...god up at my
palace....what now...do I bless you people too?
Sunset©: lol
Hank: if you or anyone wants to wiz from more than one
machine with diff reg keys - they both have to be blessed
~Joy©Æ: :3rd
~Joy©Æ: vote
~Joy©Æ: for
~Joy©Æ: Gyr
Gyrithe©: LOL Joy :)
Sunset©: ohh, gotta do the lap top too
~Joy©Æ: :heh
Obi: ^q
Hank: Gyrthie - that is the one reason I have withheld Gatekeeper
Gyrithe©: What do withheld means?
Hank: not told anyone about it
~Joy©Æ: ok so like if the wizard don't show up then they
can't be blessed?
Hank: like Gyrithe siad.......
Mad Daddy: : I want to keep Gyr handcuffed to the bedpost
~Joy©Æ: lol MD
Hank: we can god up on your palaces in emergencies
Gyrithe©: Hahahaha
matt snow: is there a palace for defrocked wizzes?
Hank: with gatekeeper we cannot
Lucid©: lol matt
~Joy©Æ: :you make one
Katt: lol
~Joy©Æ: i'm sure it will be busy
Gyrithe©: how do we solve that then Hank?
~Joy©Æ: :lol
Pilar: .
Hank: you will need to bless us Gyrithe :-)
~Joy©Æ: :we need names
~Joy©Æ: :all of em
Gyrithe©: :But I am never there when you are??
Sunset©: are we making appointments for blessings?
Hank: you can't use a name for blessing - the wiz has to be there
~Joy©Æ: TCM is one, right?
~Joy©Æ: ah
~Joy©Æ: ok appointment pls?
Mad Daddy: :I have a 10 oclock hair bleesing appointment
~Joy©Æ: lol
Katt: heh
Pilar: :smile
Hank: I am talking to CC to try and get a modified
version of Gatekeepr - so we can have a separate list for us
Ahree^^^: bless me anytime
Gyrithe©: For security...I would like a list from You
Hank...of the AIC people I should bless
Sunset©: me too
Hank: like I said - you cannot bless unless the person is there
Sunset©: so do we schedule an appointment?
Obi: i think they meant puids so they can verify
SwtNita: have a blessing party at each palace
Gyrithe©: I understood that...but I still want a list...not
to have anyone sneak in and clame they are from AIC
Hank: puid's won't help
~Joy©Æ: :heh
Hank: tell ya what
~Joy©Æ: :SwtNita = 1 vote
Sunset©: good point G
Lucid©: :can the pope be there to bless me?
Sunset©: :no luc
SwtNita: LOL Luc
Sunset©: :he's afraid of you
SwtNita: ^?
Mad Daddy: How to pope up?
~Joy©Æ: oh wow.....Gyr = 4th vote
Lucid©: :shrugs
~Joy©Æ: :she's the next president, i tell ya
Gyrithe©: :LOL:Joy
Hank: give me till the end of the week to work out a
slick anser - then we will say screw it - and make blessing
appointments
Lucid©: lol
~Joy©Æ: hehehe
Sunset©: thank you Hank
~Joy©Æ: lol Hank
Gyrithe©: :Will be the first Danish President
Katt: lol
Katt: :thought hank said he didnt cyber
Gyrithe©: :we dont have presidents so far ;)
Mad Daddy: :Prune?
~Joy©Æ: :s'ok i'm canadian...hahaha
Obi: LOL hank just email us the puids of your emploess and we can list them to verify identity before blessing them
Sunset©:
:they all do in the end
SwtNita: ohhh nooo lagggg
Pilar: :smile
Hank: we will figure something out Obi
Gyrithe©: So...we do NOT add the gatekeeper till after you
have desided how to solve the bless prob?
~Joy©Æ: btw
~Joy©Æ: i love danish
~Joy©Æ: with cinnamon on em
SwtNita: ^?
Sunset©: :she didn't mean pastries joy
Hank: up to you
Hank: some people sounded like they wanted it today
Gyrithe©: :I like to know you can help out if needed :)
Sunset©: me too
Hank: so - If you put it in place - we cannot god up
Gyrithe©: :I'll wait
SwtNita: i'll wait to
Obi: yeah im gonna wait too
Sunset©: ok, i will too
Gyrithe©: :I have no major reason to add it quick
Sunset©: helps us with some of our house cleaning
Pilar: I can wait
Hank: the few places we gave it to were for testing and
security problems (big mouth wizzes)
Hank: ok - any other topics
Gyrithe©: :I pick my staff carefully...no problems with that :)
Mad Daddy: :Have you killed your quota of wizzes today?
SwtNita: ^?
Hank: nothing?
~Joy©Æ: ok now i'm pissed
SwtNita: what is this one? Require PUID Server
Plugin....should i check that?
Gyrithe©: Hmm...cant think of more right now :)
Hank: not yet Nita
SwtNita: k
Sunset©: what's wrong joy?
~Joy©Æ: me thinks my tech guy is gonna get a call soon
Redô: Solved?: *** Your lag time: 59.67 secs
~Joy©Æ: :aint gonna be pretty
Hank: where are you Joy?
~Joy©Æ: near Montreal
Mad Daddy: : Go get em Red
SwtNita: :can i listen Joy?
~Joy©Æ: i'm on cable
Hank: let me check your trace real quick
*** ; m ~Joy©Æ 205.151.61.31 Class Hall {ZFIGODGHCF}
Lucid©: :never seen her mad
~Joy©Æ: :don't kill me!
matt snow: :i'm on cheez-its
~Joy©Æ: lol
Sunset©: I have... just once
*** Page from System: Ahree^^^ has logged off, 7 wizards remain(including you)
~Joy©Æ: don't like being mad
Sunset©: :not pretty
SwtNita: :ohh chez-its!!
~Joy©Æ: lol
~Joy©Æ: pls don't talk bout food
Lucid©: ok im hungry now
~Joy©Æ: i'm starving
Obi: everyone clear on the dangers of allscray in the
hands of unscrupulous wizards? I remeber last time we talked about
that...
matt snow: thry're a real handful nita
~Joy©Æ: LOL
matt snow: yeppers, i read about the zombie thing
.ßhaia[Try's]^^: :calling for pizza delivery
~Joy©Æ: lol Shaia
Lucid©: :pizza omg ok thats it
SwtNita: :Extra cheese
Gyrithe©: I solved that by writing an 'anti allscray script'
Hank: Joy - you are having intermittent failures at some
place called Teleglobe.net
Sunset©: are we done?.. I have a date soon
SwtNita: wb A
Zesis^^: :hank never shares pizza
~Joy©Æ: hmmmmm
Obi: yeah that works gyr i suggest all gods use it
~Joy©Æ: :can i call em?
.ßhaia[Try's]^^: grin
Hank: :pizza?
~Joy©Æ: lol
Gyrithe©: :I suggest that too Obi :)
~Joy©Æ: i want chinese fondue
Obi: :I do hehe
Lucid©: :pepperoni...ham....mushrooms
* Zesis^^ * never shares it with Hebi........<s> Hey Hankie Pankie
~Joy©Æ: with garlic bread
Trystan[ß]^^^: Prime rib and ribs
matt snow: :the Pizza Hut Palace
Sunset©: joy can we have that when i get to your house?
SwtNita: LOL Matt
~Joy©Æ: tossed salad
* Hank * !HEBBERS!!!
Sunset©: lol
~Joy©Æ: of course Sunny
Mad Daddy: anti-alscray in active mode
Sunset©: yumm
~Joy©Æ: it's on DA menu
Lucid©: she still never sent me the lasagna recipe...joy
cooks good lasagna
Hank: anyone want to learn about traces?
SwtNita: yes
matt snow: i do, i do
Lucid©: yea definitely
Hank: follow me
Gyrithe©: Sure Hank
SwtNita: k
SwtNita:
~Joy©Æ: :whoa
~Joy©Æ: :need my shades
Lucid©: coool man
Hank: put on a small prop and go to the bottom :-)
~Joy©Æ: :i'm small
Lucid©: everyone go down *heh*
Hank: small props please :-)
~Joy©Æ: :there
~Joy©Æ: Luc ya can sit on my desk
Hank: ok - this is a traceroute
~Joy©Æ: :heh
Lucid©: ok
Gyrithe©: :I have no small props in this bag....do it offend
anyone if I stay naked?
Mad Daddy: :I don't have a small one
Sunset©: naw, you can be a ball
matt snow: noperz Gyr
Redô: : ;)
Lucid©: naked is good
Gyrithe©: LOL
Obi: :just dont turn blue
Redô: :we all started out naked
Hank: if you are on a PC you can do a traceroute by
bringing up a DOS window - or "command Prompt"
Mad Daddy: Sorry Hank, go ahead
~Joy©Æ: there Gyr
Hank: waiting till everyone has the picture
Katt: got it
Sunset©: ^got it
Gyrithe©: :Hmmm...maybe a bit too naked for me ;)
Zesis^^: :c'mon down Ahree
Hank: anyomne not ready?
Hank: ok
Hank: this is a traceroute
Hank: if you are on a PC you can do a traceroute by
bringing up a DOS window - or "command Prompt"
Hank: to trace from you to us - in the command prompt
window - type "tracert chatterbox.accesscom.com"
Hank: that cammand again
Hank: ^tracert chatterbox.accesscom.com
Hank: you will get something that looks like this
Obi: global center timing out again
matt snow: :kewl
Hank: ok - each numbered line is a "hop" between me and you
Hank: the first part of each line tells you who it is
Hank: for instance
Hank: rt1.accesscom.com (line 1) is my router
Hank: sitting right behind me
Mad Daddy: :domain name
Hank: then (lines 2-4) it goes through BBNPLANET
Hank: then sprintlink
Hank: then cvnet
Hank: etc
Hank: this is just a sample - not the real trace for any of you
Hank: ok - the numbers in parentheses is the IP address
that goes with the name
Hank: then you see three numbers on each line
Hank: that's three samples of the time for that hop
Hank: each time is in milliseconds (thousanndths of a second)
*** ; Hank is Painting
Hank: see am?
SwtNita: y
Sunset©: y
Hank: if you see an asterisk - that means a failure
Hank: like these
.ßhaia[Try's]^^: :getting out lag repellant
Mad Daddy: :artistic genius
Hank: everyone with me so far?
SwtNita: y
Sunset©: y
Mad Daddy: Yep
Hank: ok so if I wanted to analyze this trace
Hank: I'd say this user was having major problems with sprintlink
Gyrithe©: :I have a question
Hank: yes?
*** Page from System: Katt has logged off, 6 wizards remain(including you)
*** ; Hank is Erasing
Lucid©: yup
Gyrithe©: the time I see...(milisecs)...is such small numbers...
Hank: yup
Gyrithe©: not long ones like here in this room
Mad Daddy: LOL
Hank: small numbers is good
Gyrithe©: how do I read them...comparing to what I see here?
Hank: big numbers (over 750) are bad
Gyrithe©: mine looks like this 000 not 000.000
Hank: you can also do a trace from our web page
Hank: that means it was too quick to measure Gyr
Gyrithe©: well...its not 000's but I do not have any . (Dot's)
Hank: to do a trace from our webpage - go to
www.accesscom.com/cgi-bin/traceroute.cgi
matt snow: i think i get it
Hank: so - why do a trace?
Sunset©: to find the problem
Hank: it will tell you where the lag is and who to yell at :-)
Gyrithe©: to discover what/where courses the lag
SwtNita:
Sunset©: translation... no yelling at chatserve
Lucid©: i know that most TCP/IP apps die when response
times are over 600 ms
Obi: fe1-0-0.ar3.SNV.globalcenter.net [206.251.5.2]
Mad Daddy: W'll yell at you Hank and you can yell at them
Obi: is the prob for me
Hank: no - if you see a problem in bbnplanet, or
glabalcenter - yell at me rright away
Hank: and I will yell at them
Gyrithe©: :still do not feel sure how to read my DOS prompt
Hank: if ya see a problem on your end - yell at your ISP
Sunset©: hank... did you trace joy?
Hank: if ya see a problem in the middle - we can try to
yel at them but it usually dosen't help
Hank: yes I did
Obi: :yelling LOL
Sunset©: k
Hank: her problem is with the upstream providoe that her
ISP connects to
Lucid©: im guessing most backbone providers are hard to
deal with lol
Hank: I will report it to BBN and see if they can fix it
Hank: yes they can be Lucid :-)
Gyrithe©:
Hank: OK I'm gonna call BBN and see if they can put any
pressure on teleglobe to fix Joy's problem
Sunset©: she thanks you
Hank: anyone got any other questions?
Gyrithe©: No
Hank: :Matt's tryin to pull the numbers down
Ahree^^^: non here
Redô: rrrrrrrrrrrrr......... *** Your lag time: 121.1 secs
SwtNita: millions but non defined yet
SwtNita: LAGGG
Hank: youch Red
Gyrithe©: Thank you for doing this teaching Hank...Its appreciated :)
Hank: want me to trace you red?
Lucid©: thanks for the class Hank
matt snow: sorry, i'm not doing it on porpoise
matt snow: :don't know how
Ahree^^^: Yes thanks Hank
Hank: ok I'm off to talk to BBN
matt snow: thanks Hank!
Gyrithe©: take care
Obi: hope hank has a QOS contact with globalcenter
Hank: ya'all feel free to kick the place around :-)
Lucid©: ok guys, see ya's all next time
Hank: my ICQ is 1071680
matt snow: nice meeting everybody
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