August 14, 1999 Palace Class held by Hank
Opening Log
Lilady©: yw hank
Mad Daddy: Hi Nita
SwtNita: Hello, .ªßJ´, Hank, Sißßy© {~J~}, Lilady, Ragdoll,
Bobb *§, Nawnie, Smokie, Mad Daddy and Ditzi §ø§
Smokie©: hi hank
Ragdoll: hi Ditzi
.ªßJ´.: hey Swt
Ditzi §ø§: hi everyone
SwtNita: hiya SJ
.ªßJ´.: hello
Nawnie©: Hey Hank havent seen you in forever..:)
Hank: !NAWNIE!!
Lilady©: smokie is comfy
Smokie©: yep
.ªßJ´.: lol
Nawnie©: Smiles.;)
Smokie©: have to be
Lilady©: is that allowed to be that comfy
Lilady©: haha
Hank: comfy is allowed :-)
Smokie©: hahA
Smokie©: thanks hank
Smokie©: lol
Lilady©: lol
Ditzi §ø§: LOL
Lilady©: shhhhh just don't tell hank that im sleeping
Lilady©: haha
Ragdoll: :i know i gots some litte peeps in dis bag somewhere
SwtNita: LOL
Nawnie©: I got some...Doll
*** class starting in 1 minute in the class hall
.ªßJ´.: hello lost
Bobb *§: wow
Bobb *§: hiyas all
Lost Reality: yea look at sam
Hank: welcome everybody
Ditzi §ø§: Bobb you look pretty comfy too
~SuzySpice©ô: oopsie
Bobb *§: I am
Lilady©: ty
Bobb *§: ty
Lost Reality: Hi all
Ragdoll: ty suga:)
~SuzySpice©ô: howdeeeee
Mutlea©ß: lol
Mad Daddy: Hank is sooooo....... BIG
Ditzi §ø§: hi lost
Nawnie©: Helllo Lost..:)
Bobb *§: hiyas lost
Mutlea©ß: Hey ya'll
SwtNita: hiya Lost
Hank: :it's the stool
Ragdoll: hi Mutlea
Ditzi §ø§: lmao J
SwtNita: hiya Mutlea
~SuzySpice©ô: cmere lost
.ªßJ´.: heh.
~SuzySpice©ô: sista
Mutlea©ß: yeah??
Bobb *§: hiyas obi
Sißßy© {~J~}: hey Obi
SwtNita: hya obi
.ªßJ´.: hola Obi
Obi: HI all
~SuzySpice©ô: you on stage for a reason, lol
Lilady©: hi obi, suzy, lost mutlea
Hank: ok we'll go ahead and get started and let
stragglers show up when they want
~SuzySpice©ô: hi there lillady
Mad Daddy: :remember to shut down ICQ
~SuzySpice©ô: oakis hank, mush
.ªßJ´.: heh ghost
Ditzi §ø§: LOL daddy
Hank: I'm Hank - I work at Chatserve as the Ops Manager
Bobb *§: hiyas gr
Mutlea©ß: Hey there Ghost
Ditzi §ø§: good to see ya Hank
GhostRider©Æ: Hi, all.
Hank: Ty Johnston is another guy you've probly talked to
a lot - but he's playing in Yosemite today
Bobb *§: lucky him
.ªßJ´.: hehe always talkin to him heh
Hank: Ty and I deal with all the palace support
Hank: :until we get the rest of the techs trained
Ragdoll: :)
.ªßJ´.: hi Jonas
Ditzi §ø§: You guys do an awsome job Hank
Hank: let's start by everyone saying their name and what
palace they're from
Jonas {~ß~}: Hiya SJ
.ªßJ´.: ok
Mad Daddy: Mad Daddy, Lady Luck Palace
SwtNita: SwtNita/Crystal Ranch
Jonas {~ß~}: I'm Jonas from Lexicon's Labyrinth
~SuzySpice©ô: ^Suzy-Paradise-South
Smokie©: Paradise South
Ragdoll: Ragdoll/Cybercity
Nawnie©: Nawnie from CyberCity
Obi: Obi/Lexicon's Labyrinth
Bobb *§: Bobb *§ Purrfect Illusions
Sißßy© {~J~}: Sißßy Lexicons Labyrinth
Lilady©: Lilady......Love Connections
~SuzySpice©ô:
.ªßJ´.: Im SJ im from props r us and palace city apt's/props
GhostRider©Æ: GhostRider©Æ from Purrfect Illusions.
Ditzi §ø§: Ditzi from Lady Luck
Mutlea©ß: Mut, Paradise South
Hank: ok cool
Lost Reality: Lost Paradise South
Mad Daddy: :That was fun
~SuzySpice©ô: lol
SwtNita: lol MD
~SuzySpice©ô: cute lost
Lost Reality: lol
Hank: first off - contacting tech support
Hank: we have a lot of people trying to reach tech support thru ICQ
Hank: ICQ sucks
Ditzi §ø§: lol
Nawnie©: lol
Mad Daddy: :NS
Lost Reality: here here
Hank: yur best way is email to support@accesscom.com
Hank: you can try ICQ but I can't guaruntee results
Hank: my ICQ is 1071680
Nawnie©: woohoo.:)
Nawnie©: hehe
Ragdoll: :)
Hank: ok - recent news
Mad Daddy: :massive add time
~SuzySpice©ô: not a new one is it hank
Hank: we've got the new T1's in and running
.ªßJ´.: yes there great
Ditzi §ø§: cool
Hank: nope - same old number
~SuzySpice©ô: k
.ªßJ´.: my server has been running alot faster
Hank: we're still tweaking the lines to balance the load
but the lag shud be a lot better
Ragdoll: hey Dev:)
Hank: hiya Dev
.Deven ÷: hiyas
SwtNita: hiya Dev
Hank: where ya from Devf - what palace?
Hank: the next big question seems to be the new licences
Hank: everyone know about them?
Sißßy© {~J~}: yes
Ragdoll: :nod
Ditzi §ø§: yeah
~SuzySpice©ô: yeppers
Jonas {~ß~}: yep
.Deven ÷: yeppers
Nawnie©: mmhmm
Mad Daddy: :y
Ragdoll: :was cool too
.ªßJ´.: ye
Hank: people have been askin what that means to yur limits here
Hank: the answer is - no change :-)
Hank: we still have the two packages - 50 and 100
.Deven ÷: kewlies
Isa:
Ragdoll: :)
.ªßJ´.: were allowed to register a 1000 reg code right if
we set it to are limit's for what server were payin for
Ditzi §ø§: hiya isa
Hank: right
.ªßJ´.: ok
SwtNita: hiya isa hugz
Hank: we're considering a change in the plans that I
think y'all will really like
~SuzySpice©ô: oh?
Hank: I gotta get it past the accountant first :-)
Mad Daddy: :Free beer?
.Deven ÷: lol
~SuzySpice©ô: lol
Ragdoll: : )
Mutlea©ß: LOL
Jonas {~ß~}: LOL
Ditzi §ø§: hehehe
Hank: I'm not gonna say anymore cuz the accountant will hurt me
Jonas {~ß~}: LOL
Ragdoll: lol
Hank: and she studies martial arts
Sißßy© {~J~}: cant have that
SwtNita: LOL
Lilady©: awwwww
.ªßJ´.: heh
Obi: :and signs your check too
GhostRider©Æ:
Lilady©: teehee!
~SuzySpice©ô: kiss kiss!
.Deven ÷: :damn the accountant
~SuzySpice©ô: oh man
Hank: if any of you ever call in for billing problems -
the gal to talk to is Wendy
Hank: she helps us pay for all this :-)
Ditzi §ø§: k
Hank: ok - the next big question seems to be version 4.3.2
Hank: you all know it's available?
SwtNita: y
Sißßy© {~J~}: uh huh
~SuzySpice©ô: yes
Lilady©: yes
Bobb *§: yep
~SuzySpice©ô: on it
Jonas {~ß~}: Yup
Ragdoll: :is much better too
Sißßy© {~J~}: yes it is
.ªßJ´.: yes
Hank: ok does anyone have any questions about converting
- and prop rooms
.Deven ÷: yep yep
Ditzi §ø§: how come i dont notice a difference
GhostRider©Æ: Is it any better than the New Personal server. That
is garbage.
.Deven ÷: nopers
SwtNita: cuz your ditzi
Smokie©: lol
Hank: there is no real difference except a few commands
Hank: the main difference is stability
Hank: it fixes a lot of bugs
Obi: yeah can you kill a prop from the propfile yet? I
know you can kill a prop on a user but I want it outta my propfile
Hank: like the random hide bug
Ditzi §ø§: Do we still need to do the prop maintenance?
Kandy©*§: !Hi! Again, So Glad to be Back
Hank: no you can't kill just a single prop
GhostRider©Æ: I saw one of the new pers, had blocks of rooms in
the script 3 times.
GhostRider©Æ: Had a devil of a time sorting it out.
Bobb *§: hiyas K
Hank: ya that's actually a bug in the client software for the PC
Kandy©*§: hey !
Kandy©*§: y amind?
Obi: :use a text editor
Bobb *§: not you not ever
Ditzi §ø§: Hank, we still need to flush the props regularly?
Kandy©*§: hey Swt
Hank: CC (new name) says you should use the new ad client
to prevent authoring errors
GhostRider©Æ: Ended up hand converting it; and installing old server.
SwtNita: hiya kandy :)
Hank: :but then maybe they just want you to see the ads :-)
.ªßJ´.: i hate when my doors get stuck ...
Jonas {~ß~}: LOL
Hank: so no questions on 4.3.2?
Ditzi §ø§: YES
Ditzi §ø§: LOL
Hank: does everyone know about the new setrank command?
.ªßJ´.: no
Bobb *§: no
SwtNita: no
Jonas {~ß~}: no
Lilady©: no
Smokie©: no
.Deven ÷: nope
~SuzySpice©ô: yes
GhostRider©Æ: no
Obi: yes
Ditzi §ø§: Do we still need to do the prop maintenance ? flush props?
.ªßJ´.: ye i think ditzi
Hank: the setrank command lets you set who can do what
Hank: like kill, pin, etc
.ªßJ´.: oh really sweet!
Obi: yes ditzi you do
Isa: how 'bout authoring?
.ªßJ´.: like only let gods author
Ditzi §ø§: lmao thanks
Hank: yes you still have to do prop maintenance
~Joy©Æ: :boo
Hank: yes SJ
~Joy©Æ: hiyas :)
Ragdoll: hey joy
.Deven ÷: :whut?
~Joy©Æ: lol
.ªßJ´.: omg yes
.ªßJ´.: would it be 'setrank author godsonly?
Hank: no
.ªßJ´.: or somethin
.Deven ÷: hiyas mega
~Joy©Æ: hiya Deven :)
Hank: the format is 'setrank 'command rank
Hank: the ranks are.......
.ªßJ´.: o ok
Hank: 0=guest or java
.ªßJ´.: thankie
Hank: 1=registered member
Hank: 2=wizard
Hank: 3=god
Hank: so - let's say you only wanted gods to be able to kill
Hank: it would be 'setrank 'kill 3
Jonas {~ß~}: OIC
.ªßJ´.: ^'setrank 'author 3
.ªßJ´.: that right
.Deven ÷: kewlies
Hank: yup
Sißßy© {~J~}: very nice feature for a change
.ªßJ´.: that rule's
Hank: everyone is welcome to god up during the class here
Lilady©: does that mean they can go into ur author mode and
turn it on too the wiz?
Hank: the godpass is qsx3fty
*** Page from System: Kandy©*§ denied wizard access
*** Page from System: ~Joy©Æ made god
*** Page from System: .ªßJ´. made god
*** Page from System: Obi made god
*** Page from System: Bobb *§ made god
*** Page from System: GhostRider©Æ made god
Hank: ok - another cool new command
Isa: is there a problem with locks on rooms that you know of?
~Joy©Æ: :lol
*** Page from System: Ragdoll made god
.Deven ÷: grins
*** Page from System: Mad Daddy made god
*** Page from System: SwtNita denied wizard access
Hank: there is a problem with locks on rooms and CC is workin on it
~Joy©Æ: :lotsogods here
Lilady©: i get problems sometime with lock disappearing
.ªßJ´.: Hank
Obi: paste it nita
Hank: everyone does
Ragdoll: :ahhh nice to know
Isa: ohhh.....well, at least I'm not imagining it
Mad Daddy: :god-o-rama
Ditzi §ø§: lol
.ªßJ´.: is their a problem on fixing doors that get stuck
in the corners or something eithout going into your pserver dat
Hank: it seems to be a bug in the PC client
~Joy©Æ: hiya Gem Gem :)
Nawnie©: Hello Gem..:)
.Deven ÷: !baby
.Gemô ÷: Hi, .ªßJ´., Hank, Sißßy© {~J~}, Lilady©, Ragdoll,
Bobb *§, Nawnie©, Smokie©, Mad Daddy, Ditzi §ø§, SwtNita, .Deven ÷,
Isa, ~SuzySpice©ô, Obi, GhostRider©Æ, Jonas {~ß~}, Kandy©*§, ~Joy©Æ
*** Page from System: SwtNita made god
Lilady©: hi gem
Hank: yes - the problem with doors dissapearing is a client bug
Bobb *§: hiya gem
.ªßJ´.: darn
Ragdoll: hey Gemmers:)
~SuzySpice©ô: oh man
Mad Daddy: :bug-o-rama
.ªßJ´.: for pc's only
.ªßJ´.: ?
SwtNita: hiya gem
Hank: pc only - yes
.ªßJ´.: oh damn
Ditzi §ø§: Thats when its good to know a few mac users
SwtNita: i gotta lota doors do that
.ªßJ´.: Hnak
.ªßJ´.: Hank
Hank: there are a lot of bugs with doors
Hank: yes?
.ªßJ´.: how come when i move rooms downthe list they wont move down
Hank: hmm hadn't heard that one
Ragdoll: :mine move
.ªßJ´.: like 'downlist
Obi: refresh the list maybe?
Nawnie©: mmhmm..
.ªßJ´.: and how many you want it down
.ªßJ´.: i tryed
Hank: ok let me get thru none more new command and I'll
open it up for questions
~SuzySpice©ô: mine move ok
Obi: it wont show right away but if you CTRL G twice...
.ªßJ´.: o ok
Hank: there is a new command that lets you see all the
settings on your server
*** Palace Server 4.3.2 Build 506 i686-unknown-linux Mon Jun 21
18:48:21 PDT 1999
SwtNita: kewl
Hank: type 'reportprefs
Jonas {~ß~}: Ooh nice :-)
.ªßJ´.: wow sweet
~Joy©Æ: cool beans!
~Joy©Æ: wow that is so cool
.ªßJ´.: arg i got another ? heh is their a way to change
what your palace says at the a-z list while your on god mode
Ragdoll: :nod
Hank: you mean the blurb?
.ªßJ´.: im not sure is that how?
~Joy©Æ: yep
Hank: you can't change the blurb from god mode
.ªßJ´.: darn
Hank: but - you can from our utility page
.ªßJ´.: o ok
~SuzySpice©ô: lol
Hank: everyone know about the utility page?
SwtNita: yes
.Gemô ÷: yup
Bobb *§: no
Jonas {~ß~}: eyp
Sißßy© {~J~}: yup
Obi: yep
Lilady©: yes
.ªßJ´.: not really
~Joy©Æ: :raising hand
~Joy©Æ: hehehe
.Deven ÷: yep yep
GhostRider©Æ: ae
Hank: the utility page is at www.accesscom.com/uutils
.ªßJ´.: k
Bobb *§: 2 u's?
Hank: it lets you restart, kill the prop file - and a ton
of other stuff
Hank: yes - uutils
Jonas {~ß~}: Yes Bobb
Bobb *§: ty
Hank: stands for user utilities
.ªßJ´.: oh i no that now
Ditzi §ø§: looking up the passwords was a nice new feature
.ªßJ´.: i always use restartserver
Hank: ok - Joy had a Q
~Joy©Æ: huh?
.ªßJ´.: you can look up passwords?
*** Page from System: Kandy©*§ made god
Hank: oh - guess not
~Joy©Æ: no no
Jonas {~ß~}: LOL
~Joy©Æ: hehehe
Lilady©: ?
Ditzi §ø§: yes on the utility page
.ªßJ´.: kewl
Hank: ok - if anyone has a Q just put up a Q
Lilady©: how can i change the kill?
Hank: what do you mean change the kill?
Lilady©: i want the kill to 2000
Ragdoll: ^Q
.ªßJ´.: banip
*** ; `hide on|off - hide from all other users
*** ; `hidefrom - hide from another user
*** ; `page - summon help from an operator
*** ; `respond - reply to the last sender of an ESP message
*** ; `mute - mute another user
*** ; `rejectesp on|off - reject ESP messages
*** ; `rejectprivate on|off - reject private messages
*** ; `newroom [name] - Create a new room (one allowed per user)
*** ; `password - Specify a navigation password
*** ; `repage - respond to the last (non-operator) page sender
*** ; `er - go to the room of last
(non-operator) page sender
*** ; `list [-k o p w] - list ip address of specific user
*** ; `list [-k o p w] - list users matching ip address
*** ; `list [-k o p w] - list ip addresses of users in room
*** ; `glist [-k o p w] - list ip address of all users
*** ; - LIST OPTIONS
*** ; - -k Show the users reg key hash
*** ; - -o Show the users software
orignation code and machine type
*** ; - -p Show the users PUID hash
*** ; - -w List only operators
*** ; `paint on|off - turn painting on or off serverwide
*** ; `bots on|off - turn cyborgs on or off serverwide
*** ; `death - set default death penalty to N minutes
*** ; `flood - kill flooders after N events in 1 second
*** ; `duplicate - duplicate the current room
*** ; `delete - delete the current room
*** ; `banlist [str] - show banned users
*** ; `purgebanlist - purge elapsed ban records
*** ; `unban - unban user(s) who match str (ip or name)
*** ; `untrack - untrack user(s) who match str (ip or name)
*** ; `banip [minutes] - ban ipaddress (may use 12.24.23.*;
numeric IPs only!)
*** ; `trackip [minutes] - track sign-ons from ipaddress (may
use 12.24.23.*)
*** ; `kill [minutes] - kill currently connected user
*** ; `track [minutes] - track sign-ons from currently connected user
*** ; `comment - add a comment to a banlist record
*** ; `extend - change death penalty on a ban record
*** ; `gag - gag currently connected user
*** ; `ungag - ungag currently connected user
*** ; `propgag - propgag a member
*** ; `unpropgag - unpropgag a member
*** ; `purgeprops - purge props older than N days from memory
*** ; `autoannounce - set the server greeting
*** ; `roommaxocc - set the max occupancy for the current room
*** ; `roommaxguests - set max guest occupancy for the current room
*** ; `opcount - tell how many operators are logged in
*** ; 'defaultpaneurl [pane [url]] - set default pane URL for pane
*** ; 'paneurl [panenumber [urlstring]] - set pane URL for
pane in room to urlstring
*** ; 'displayurl [pane number] url [user] - display URL to a user
or the room
*** ; `reset - reset room counts
*** ; `ban user - banish a user from the server
*** ; `recycle - automatically recycle guest ID numbers at N
*** ; `recycle - recycle guest ID numbers now
*** ; `shutdown - shut down the server
*** ; `operatorpass - set the operator password
*** ; `adminpass - set the administrator password
*** ; `servername - set the server name
*** ; `maxserverocc - set the maximum server occupancy
*** ; `defaultroomocc - set the default room occupancy
*** ; `picdir - identify the pictures folder
*** ; `guests on|off - enable guest access to the server
(on by default)
*** ; `custom on|off - enable the user of custom props (on
by default)
*** ; `operators on|off - enable support for operators (on by default)
*** ; `opkill on|off - operators may kill (on by default)
*** ; `playerkill on|off - members may kill (off by default)
*** ; `spoof on|off - members may spoof using @x,y (on by default)
*** ; `memberrooms on|off - members may create their own rooms
*** ; `oponly on|off - set current room as operator-only
*** ; `uplist N - move the current room N slots up in
the room list
*** ; `downlist N - move the current room N slots down
in the room list
*** ; `dropzone - make the current room a drop zone (front gate)
*** ; `botkill on|off - cyborgs may kill (off by default)
*** ; `author on|off - operators may author (on by default)
*** ; `passwordsecurity - enable password security (auto-kicks
after 3 attempts)
*** ; `fileserver - set the URL for an external file
server or turn off file server support.
*** ; No parameter returns the current setting
*** ; `avatarurl - set the URL for finding default
avatar GIFs, or turn off customized default
*** ; avatar support; No paramater
returns the current setting.
*** ; `chatlog filename - enable chat logging to specified file
*** ; `nowhisper on|off - disables all whispers
*** ; `revision - revision number of the server
*** ; `flushprops - flush props older than N days from prop file
*** ; `security :[ ]|
*** ; - set the security deamon.
*** ; authhost is the URL of the
authentication daemon
*** ; authport is the port of the
authentication daemon
*** ; retrys is an optional field to
specify how many attempts a user may make.
*** ; The default is 1 try
*** ; `securesite on|off - Name & Password required to access this server
*** ; `securelogoff on|off - Authentication engine tracks logoffs
*** ; `securejavaaccess on|off - require additional authorization for
Java users
*** ; `setrank `command [rank] - Set or see rank for `command
*** ; `propcontrol [on|off] - Turn prop control on or off
*** ; `reportprefs - Return Current Preference Settings
Ditzi §ø§: ^Q
.Gemô ÷: :raising hand
Hank: that would be 'death 2000
Lilady©: ok ty
Hank: yes rag?
Ragdoll: is abotu TCM
Ragdoll: i know is a not a guest
Hank: tcm?
Nawnie©: think it is a bot Doll
Ragdoll: yes i think is like...who's on//
Nawnie©: like the who's on?
Ragdoll: yes
Hank: the who's on bot?
Ragdoll: it is
Ditzi §ø§: what the heck is that?
Ragdoll: but i cut that off
~SuzySpice©ô: name is TCM now
Ragdoll: with a command you had
Bobb *§: wb smokie
~Joy©Æ: hiya Smokie
Hank: it's a bot from a webpage
Ditzi §ø§: tcm has been coming to lady luck too
~SuzySpice©ô: yes
~SuzySpice©ô: wb sam
Hank: tcm is Ty
Smokie©: ty
Ditzi §ø§: okay LOL
Ragdoll: ohhh ok
~SuzySpice©ô: i thought so
.ªßJ´.: raises hand
Ragdoll: thats cool
Nawnie©: lol
.ªßJ´.: i got a
~Joy©Æ: :watcha talking about
Hank: he's usually just checkin on things
.Gemô ÷: what is the max number av's you can put in a prop
room on this server
Ragdoll: just wanted to know
Ditzi §ø§: ^Q
.ªßJ´.: ?
Ragdoll: thats cool then
.ªßJ´.: i got a ?
SwtNita: TCM comes in to check that everything is working ok
~Joy©Æ: ooohhhhhhh ok
Hank: does that answer yur q rag?
Ragdoll: yes thank you so much
Obi: ^Q and comment
Hank: ditzi?
Nawnie©: :loves Hank.:)
~Joy©Æ: ^Q
Hank: :mush
.ªßJ´.: ^Q
.Gemô ÷: ^brb
SwtNita: lol
Nawnie©: lol
Ditzi §ø§: I know this really isnt server related, but
regarding the site pages i cant get an answer out of palace
~SuzySpice©ô: :i know mush
.Gemô ÷:
Hank: niether can we :-)
Ditzi §ø§: i cannot get my name on there to save my soul, is
there a trick to that?
Jonas {~ß~}: LOL
.Deven ÷: LOL
Hank: you need your server reg code
Ditzi §ø§: its on there
.Deven ÷: wb hon
Ditzi §ø§: everything is on there accept my name LOL
.Gemô ÷: ty
Hank: there are still a lot of bugs in the new site pages
Ditzi §ø§: okay *being patient*
.ªßJ´.: ye me and carols ids are the same
Hank: obi?
.ªßJ´.: ^Q
Hank: Obi?
Smokie©: lol
~SuzySpice©ô: lol
Nawnie©: giggle
Ditzi §ø§: hehehe
Obi: myq is have you considered doing a class on palace
presents and my comment is that I have a lot of cool tools and a
couple shell scripts that the gods might be interested in
Hank: cool
Nawnie©: woohoo
Hank: as for palace presents we could do that
Ragdoll: :love goodies
~SuzySpice©ô: yes, please obi
Bobb *§: me too
Nawnie©: :nod
Hank: :cept PP kicks my butt big time
~SuzySpice©ô: me too
.Deven ÷: hehe
Jonas {~ß~}: LOL
Hank: on the scripts - we are trying to set up a mail
list to share info amongst you all
Lilady©: whats ur addy obi
Ragdoll: ^Q
.Deven ÷: whats a little bruise here and there hank?
Obi: okay the scripits i was refering to are shell
scripts for your unix shell account
SwtNita: I'd be interested to Obi
Hank: as soon as the UNIX guy gets the T1's tweaked he is
gonna set up the mail list
Obi: like one to check for fails without wading through
your log...
Kandy©*§: oooooxclent
Obi: nope telent
Obi: LOL
Jonas {~ß~}: LOL
Kandy©*§: lol
Hank: most of the people wouldn't be able to use UNIX :-)
GhostRider©Æ:
Lilady©: teehee!
~SuzySpice©ô: kiss kiss!
~Joy©Æ:
Ragdoll: :UNIX dumass here
Isa: hey........
Ragdoll: ^Q
Hank: we are workin on a lot of log analysis tools
SwtNita: LOL Rag, me too
GhostRider©Æ: What's Unix?
~SuzySpice©ô: oh man GR, lol, setting my borg off
GhostRider©Æ:
Lilady©: Damm annoying ppl..
~SuzySpice©ô: Hey, you goof
~SuzySpice©ô: oh geesssss
Hank: ok SJ?
.ªßJ´.: how do you get someones member code? my listing
them and how can you ban it?
Kandy©*§: :shush Kan
.ªßJ´.: by listing them i mean
Hank: ok there are three things you can ban by
.ªßJ´.: uh
Hank: IP, Reg code, PUID
Hank: IP is pretty useless
.ªßJ´.: yes
~Joy©Æ: hi Munchie and TS2
Hank: and will not work at all for registered members
Lilady©: hi munch and ts
Munchie(SJ's): hi all
TS2: hello
.ªßJ´.: i prefer banning by reg but i dunno how
Hank: palace dosen't even check IP for registered members
SwtNita: iya munchie
Smokie©: hi munchie
SwtNita: hya ts2
.ªßJ´.: oh
Hank: ok - to get a regkey - type 'list -k
.ªßJ´.: o ok
Hank: to get the PUID type 'list -p
.ªßJ´.: how would you ban a reg
Hank: but - version 4.3.2 saves you the effort
Jonas {~ß~}: ^Q
GhostRider©Æ: Which is better for ban?
~Joy©Æ: i like version 4.3.2
Hank: puid is better - it's a lot harder to change
.Deven ÷: kewlies
.ªßJ´.: once you get these things how would you ban them
Hank: when you ban either a regkey or a PUID on 4.3.2 -
or a regular kill - it bans both codes automatically
Isa: great
Ditzi §ø§: oh thats nice
~SuzySpice©ô: oh goody
.ªßJ´.: you type 'ban puid?
.Deven ÷: excellent
GhostRider©Æ: cool beans
Smokie©: cool
~Joy©Æ: :heh
.ªßJ´.: n then there number or whatever
Hank: to kill with a regkey or puid use 'ban key
.ªßJ´.: o ok
Hank: one of the biggest mistakes people make in killing
is trying to ban members through banning IP
Ragdoll: winks, i am patient person
.ªßJ´.: hehe yes
Hank: palace does not check IP for members
.Deven ÷: lol
Ragdoll: ^Q
.ªßJ´.: it only works for people on cable's
Hank: so an IP ban is useless
.ªßJ´.: not if the person would be on a cbale modem
~Joy©Æ: :i know
~Joy©Æ: hahahaha
Hank: yes - even then
.ªßJ´.: oh
.Gemô ÷: lol joysie
~Joy©Æ: :heh
Hank: palace does not check even IP for members
Hank: an IP ban will not work against a member - ever
Sißßy© {~J~}: :lol why is the option there?
.ªßJ´.: yes
Hank: it's for guests
Sißßy© {~J~}: OIC
.ªßJ´.: it shouldnt be a option than
Sißßy© {~J~}: thanks
.ªßJ´.: there arnt many guests anymore
* ~Joy©Æ * Hank, i think SJ doesn't know about the 'help command?
Hank: IP ban is the only way to block a guest
Bobb *§: lol
Obi: all java are guests
GhostRider©Æ: besides the fact it changes, every time they connect.
Sißßy© {~J~}: with the new TVP there will be more
Jonas {~ß~}:
.Gemô ÷: yes palace still has guest
.ªßJ´.: not many
Hank: ok does that answer the kill q?
.ªßJ´.: ya
Kandy©*§: yep
Jonas {~ß~}: Well pretty much :-)
Hank: ok sissy?
Sißßy© {~J~}: it was Jonas
Sißßy© {~J~}: LOL
Munchie(SJ's): so banning the key is best?
Hank: ok - jonas ? :-)
Jonas {~ß~}: Well I just wondered...
Hank: yes - banning the keys is the only way
Jonas {~ß~}: If you can PERMANENTLY kill a java user?
Jonas {~ß~}: or if they can just come back on another connection
Hank: not if their IP changes - no
Jonas {~ß~}: K, thanx
Hank: you can disallow all jave though
Jonas {~ß~}: Ahhh
Jonas {~ß~}: ty
Hank: if you set 'guests off - no java
Nawnie©: cool
Jonas {~ß~}: gotcha
Ragdoll: :we did that nawns
Hank: ok rag?
Ragdoll: ^Q
Ragdoll: i have 2 q's
Hank: ok
.ªßJ´.: i see the no avatar command is in there
Ragdoll: one is on a ban
Ragdoll: some of us have a problem with
Ragdoll: if the user is not there
Ditzi §ø§: yeah i do
SwtNita: yes
Ragdoll: and i find there puid and hash
Nawnie©: ah yes cant find user..
Ragdoll: i do a `ban and cut and past that
Ragdoll: and sometimes say
Ragdoll: user not found
.ªßJ´.: )821.wav
Hank: yur usin ban and not kill?
Ragdoll: yes
Ragdoll: if they arent there
Nawnie©: is big problem
Hank: and you put in the reg or puid hash?
Ragdoll: yes tried it both ways
.ªßJ´.: )819.wav
Ragdoll: with both
Ragdoll: and sep
Hank: so if you wanted to ban me what wud you type?
Obi: never had that problem I do offline bans all the time
SwtNita: how
Ragdoll: i would type,,`ban {ZHEEAHMIDH}
Hank: leave off the brackets
Nawnie©: I dont use the bracets..
Obi: drop the braces
Ragdoll: thnks you!!!
~Joy©Æ: :drop the gun
~Joy©Æ: :hahaha
Ragdoll: one more
.Deven ÷: LOL
Ragdoll: about a dropzpne
Nawnie©: but it happens that way too Hank
Lilady©: do u have to put in a time for the ban or just the
way doll did it
Hank: what happens?
Hank: the user not found?
Ragdoll: right
Nawnie©: cant find user
Ragdoll: do we need to add the time? somewhere in it?
Hank: ok - if palace says can't find user - it means it
is not recognizing your key as a reg key or puid
Ragdoll: :sigh
Hank: and it thinks you are putting in a name
~Joy©Æ: hmmm
Nawnie©: :hmm
Ragdoll: i knew i tried with brackers and without
Hank: either you are putting a space after the key - or
it is not a valid key
~Joy©Æ: Hank show the right way to do it
Nawnie©: please.:)
~Joy©Æ: :use me
~Joy©Æ: hahaha
Hank: hmm - it might be a guy using an invalid key
SwtNita: or me
Obi: yeah but doesnt palace kill invalid keys?
Hank: ok to ban me it would be 'ban ZHEEAHMIDH
~Joy©Æ: no space?
Hank: That's what I'm wondering Obi
Nawnie©: not time put in there?
Hank: no time needed
.Deven ÷: not for a ban...ban is forever
Hank: bans are permanent
Ragdoll: no space needed either?
SwtNita: what is the max time of a ban?
.Deven ÷: need time for a kill
GhostRider©Æ: Default time?
Obi: I think that they are pasting and catching either a
leading or trailing space
Hank: a space between ban and the key - but not after
Sißßy© {~J~}: yup
Jonas {~ß~}: Just a space between the command and the key Doll
Sißßy© {~J~}: been there done that
Ragdoll: k
Hank: you may be right Obi
Ragdoll: :i have made it work
Ragdoll: :sometimes
.Deven ÷: lol
GhostRider©Æ: ^Q
Hank: I need to see if it will ban an invalid key - hang on a sec
Lilady©: on if my wiz put a -1 and that bans them for life...
*** can't find ZHEEAHMXXX
Jonas {~ß~}: Lady...bans are already permanent
Hank: ok - it will not ban an invalid key
GhostRider©Æ:
SwtNita: my understanding is a ban/kill only lasts 30,000 max
Hank: I just made up a key and couldn't ban it
Obi: okay must be a flashback from when you had to pay
for the client LOL
Kandy©*§: hey RH
Jonas {~ß~}: Kill is the command that needs a time limit
~Joy©Æ: hiya RedHook :)
Nawnie©: thats what I was wonderin about was the -1 or time on a ban..
Hank: kill is timed - ban is permanent
Jonas {~ß~}: Kill and Ban are not the same
SwtNita: ok
Nawnie©: k
RedHook©: Hi, all
Hank: ok - the -1 on a kill = permanent
SwtNita: hiya red
~SuzySpice©ô: hey there redhook
.Gemô ÷: hi redhook
GhostRider©Æ: hi RH
Nawnie©: ah..
.ªßJ´.: ^brb
Hank: it's a way for a wiz (who cannot use ban) to do a perm ban
~Joy©Æ: show us
Hank: like 'kill Hank -1
Sißßy© {~J~}: please
Obi: ^Q
Ragdoll: ^Q about dropzone
Hank: any more q's about bans and kills?
Hank: ok - dropzones :-)
Ragdoll: smile
Ragdoll: when you change your gate ,, i know you make it dropzone but
Ragdoll: if you want to use the room somewhere else i want
to know how to make it not a dropzone
Hank: you mean the first room on the list?
Ragdoll: no
Mad Daddy: :Rag has such good questions
Ragdoll: i mean
Ragdoll: i had a gate
Ragdoll: i moved it
.Gemô ÷: as second dropzone?
Ragdoll: down list
Ragdoll: it is marked dropzone
GhostRider©Æ: type 'dropzone off
Ragdoll: ty ty
Hank: :what Ghost said
Ragdoll: thats all i needed
Jonas {~ß~}: LOL
SwtNita: lol
~Joy©Æ: ^Q
Hank: Obi?
Obi: CC says that the older serveres will stop
registering with the dir and etc... does that mean that the 8 user
palaces are going away since they are dropping low capacity licenses?
Hank: not sure on that one
Hank: it might just mean they won't show up on the directory
Hank: the 8 user license is the free one
Ditzi §ø§: and thats just like a free horse...most expensive kind ROFL
Sißßy© {~J~}: the way I understood the TOS
Sißßy© {~J~}: was that this MIGHT happen in the future
Hank: not sure - sorry
Hank: will try to get that answer from CC
Obi: :just wondering
Mad Daddy: :pressure
Hank: Joy?
~Joy©Æ: are we going to get the minutes or resumÈ of this
class via email, since some people couldn't attend and ......i forgot
to save the log...damnabit
Hank: yes the log will be available
SwtNita: kewl
~Joy©Æ: coolies
Ragdoll: i got it joy
.ªßJ´.: great
Sißßy© {~J~}: I got it
.ªßJ´.: hey hank
~Joy©Æ: i see some people are not as forgetful as i am....hehehe
Jonas {~ß~}: The class logs are on the website Joy
Mad Daddy: :savinganyway
.ªßJ´.: is there a way if you ban someones ip you can get
there reg code off there ip
Hank: nope
~Joy©Æ: oh ok
.ªßJ´.: oh darn
Obi: look it up in the pserver.log if you have access to
the uutils page
Hank: just a sec - I got a server emergency
.Deven ÷: ^Q
~Joy©Æ: k thanks Obi :)
.Deven ÷: :ruh ro
~Joy©Æ: :ut oh....Gem went poof?
.Deven ÷: yep
Mad Daddy: :Off to grab a snack
~Joy©Æ: and offline?
~Joy©Æ: ack!
.Deven ÷: still online for me
Hank: back
~Joy©Æ: :oh sure
Lilady©: wb
~Joy©Æ: lol
SwtNita: wb
GhostRider©Æ: wb
.Deven ÷: lol
Sißßy© {~J~}: wb
Nawnie©: Excuse me all....R/L callin..:(
~Joy©Æ: wb wb :)
Hank: thanks
.Deven ÷: ^Q
~Joy©Æ: see ya Nawnie...*hugs*
~Joy©Æ: take care girlie
Hank: ok - yes Dev?
Ragdoll: hugs nawns
Nawnie©: thanks for all your help Hank...nice seein ya again.;)
Nawnie©: @128,151 !)kiss WET and Naughty kiss just for u !!!!!
SwtNita: take care Nawnie
Hank: great seein ya nawners
Mad Daddy: Bye Nawn
.Deven ÷: the code you can find in your server logs is that
the PUID or the regcode?
Obi: it has all
~Joy©Æ: both
Hank: both
.Deven ÷: then which is which?
~Joy©Æ: :don't ask me
~Joy©Æ: hahahaha
SwtNita: LOL
.Deven ÷: :not askin you joysie
Hank: the short one is the reg key and the long one that
starts with a Z is the PUID
~Joy©Æ: :fine
.Deven ÷: :so :OP
~Joy©Æ: neener neener.....Þ
.Deven ÷: k tanks hank
GhostRider©Æ: airplanes
Isa: ^Q
.ªßJ´.: ye thanks Hank for the help
~Joy©Æ: fly?
Hank: does everyone know what a PUID and a reg key are?
.ªßJ´.: it helped alot
~Joy©Æ: oooooo fly?
SwtNita: no
~Joy©Æ: nope
.ªßJ´.: i no the reg key but
.ªßJ´.: not
.ªßJ´.: puid
Hank: ok - the reg key hash is a key based on the
software registration key the user enetered
.Deven ÷: :now gem offline for me too :O(
SwtNita: the one they got in email?
.ªßJ´.: ye
Hank: it's what you see when you type 'list -k
.ªßJ´.: the one they registered for
SwtNita: ok
Hank: a problem user can have a dozen reg keys to get around a ban
~Joy©Æ: *pat* *pat* Deven
Ragdoll: :lag?
Jonas {~ß~}: ahhhhhh
SwtNita: ugh
~Joy©Æ: say what?????
*** Page from System: Ragdoll has logged off, 9 wizards remain(including you)
~Joy©Æ: :ut oh
Hank: the PUID is a code written to the computer when
they run the palace installer
~Joy©Æ: :Rags went poof poof too
Hank: it never changes
SwtNita: so ban with that instead
Jonas {~ß~}: ty Hank
SwtNita: ?
.Deven ÷: :another one bites da dust
Hank: even if they deinstall palace and reinstall it
Sißßy© {~J~}: TY Hank
~Joy©Æ: :that's a song Deven...
.ªßJ´.: so the first time you install palace
.Deven ÷: :duh joy
~Joy©Æ: Queen!
.ªßJ´.: ur puid stays forever
~Joy©Æ: wut?
Munchie(SJ's): how do u get the puid?
Hank: some of the more talented snerts have two computers
- or have figured out how to change the PUID
.Deven ÷: lol teasin ya
~Joy©Æ: gonna kick yer butt mistah
Hank: you get the PUID with 'list -p
Jonas {~ß~}: type 'list -p Munchie
.Deven ÷: :wigglin it at ya
~Joy©Æ: hehe
~Joy©Æ: ^brb
.ªßJ´.: thats when u track em ban there reg and puid
Munchie(SJ's): k thanks
Obi: ^comment about keys and banning
.Deven ÷: :uh oh she gettin a bigger boot
.ªßJ´.: can you track a member code?
Hank: go ahead Obi
Obi: importatnt point for people that want offline ban
capabilities... they have to save session keys right?
Hank: yes
Hank: that's on by default
SwtNita: huh?
.Deven ÷: and session keys are?
SwtNita: wb gem
Sißßy© {~J~}: but is not session keys the reg and not the PUID?
.Deven ÷: wb baby
Hank: session keys are the reg key and the puid
.Gemô ÷: ouch...thanks
Sißßy© {~J~}: OIC
.Deven ÷: ahhh okies
SwtNita: ok
SwtNita: ty
.Deven ÷: *rappin my noggin*
.Deven ÷: duh
Lilady©: ^Q
Hank: go ahead lil
Lilady©: is there away we can find all of this information
for all of these things people r talking about
Hank: :I can't read the name in the corner :-)
Lilady©: im so confused and im new at this
~Joy©Æ: wb gem Gem :)
.Gemô ÷: thanks mega
Sißßy© {~J~}: it is Isa
GhostRider©Æ: Isa been waitin' a while.
Isa: is there a way to find the size of a single room?
Isa: lol...sorry
Hank: yea we're putting together some help pages - plus
there are manuals on the palace web site
Lilady©: ok ty
Hank: finding the size of a room - use our utility page
Sißßy© {~J~}: size?
Isa: k, thanks
Hank: you mean script size right?
Isa: yes
Sißßy© {~J~}: OIC
Sißßy© {~J~}: TY hank
Hank: there is a 16KB limit on a single room
Hank: if you violate it - yur server crashes - very dirty :-)
RedHook©: ^Q
SwtNita: uhoh
Isa: uh-huh...found that out the hard way
~Joy©Æ: oh that's precious info....thanks :)
Isa: : )
Ditzi §ø§: lolol
SwtNita: ohh isa hugz
Hank: :wish they would just warn you
Obi: has anyone been able to get a copy of the 4.3.2
server pdf? everytime I try its 404 File not found
.ªßJ´.: how do u no ifur over
.Deven ÷: ^brb
Hank: no - but I'll get it and post it Obi
Hank: Red?
RedHook©: Does that limit include prop rooms?
Hank: yes
Hank: especially prop rooms
RedHook©: ok, thanks
~Joy©Æ: Gem did you see that?
SwtNita: yikes
~Joy©Æ: :shit
Hank: usually you can get away with 50 props in a single room
Hank: 30 is a better limit to use tho
.ªßJ´.: i use 20 in each
SwtNita: whew ty
~Joy©Æ: alrighty
Hank: 20 is good
Jonas {~ß~}: Depending on the script your using to view them
Kandy©*§: yep 20
Hank: :what jonas said
Isa: exactly Jonas
~Joy©Æ: hmmm?
Sißßy© {~J~}: the prp gen is a factor Joy
Kandy©*§: which is the bes viewer Jonas?
~Joy©Æ: oh
SwtNita: :making note to check size of my prop rooms
Hank: some prop scripts are bigger than others
Jonas {~ß~}: If you're using a Next - Back script where you have
to put prop id's in both scripts...don't go much higher than 20
~Joy©Æ: ack!
Jonas {~ß~}: Especially if they are all 9 piece props
SwtNita: ty jonas
.ªßJ´.: i use a cheap one it doesnt allow a back button
~Joy©Æ: thanks :)
Jonas {~ß~}: yw
Obi: oour biggest prop room is only 5 K and we stick to 25 max
Kandy©*§: [[*-*]] thankee
Hank: one quick intro
Hank: the guy up by the sign is Lance
SwtNita: hiya Lance
Hank: he's a tech support guy
Kandy©*§: Obi i want ur generator...lol
Sißßy© {~J~}: Hi Lance
Bobb *§: Hi lance
Jonas {~ß~}: Hiya Lance
Hank: he's learning palace
Ditzi §ø§: hello Lance
~Joy©Æ: hiya Lance :)
GhostRider©Æ: hi Lance
.ªßJ´.: oh
TS2: hello all
Hank: he's a great guy and learning fast
Bobb *§: welcome to our world
RedHook©: Hi, Lance
Kandy©*§: hey Lance
Jonas {~ß~}: Welcome to Palace life!
SwtNita: teach me when your done lance
.ªßJ´.: welcome to the best chat
TS2: thanks all
~Joy©Æ: lol Swt
.ªßJ´.: ever
Jonas {~ß~}: LOL
Kandy©*§: lol Swt
Mad Daddy: Greetings Lance
Obi: LOL no aol here? no age/sex??? hehe
Lilady©: hi lance and where is lance
Jonas {~ß~}: chutup Obi
.Gemô ÷: ewwww A word
Jonas {~ß~}: LOL
~Joy©Æ: Lance is TS2
SwtNita: LOL
Lilady©: ty joy
Hank: if you call or email during a weekend or evening -
yur probly talkin to Lance
~Joy©Æ: yw :)
.ªßJ´.: oh
~Joy©Æ: oh
.ªßJ´.: i usually talk to Ty
Ditzi §ø§: lucky you Lance
.ªßJ´.: or somethin
~Joy©Æ: meaning no cybering and stuff?
Lilady©: maybe i did a few times
~Joy©Æ: :hahaha
.Gemô ÷: lol nut
~Joy©Æ: jk!
Hank: he's new to palace so be gentle :-)
~Joy©Æ: :ok ok
Jonas {~ß~}: LOL
.ªßJ´.: ok
Sißßy© {~J~}: ooooo virgin
~Joy©Æ: hahaha
SwtNita: :always gentle
Kandy©*§: :Oh! Oh!
.Gemô ÷: fresh meat
~Joy©Æ: love newbies
Lilady©: u mean we can't break him in
Lilady©: haha
Jonas {~ß~}: Down Sissy...down girl
SwtNita: brb
Ditzi §ø§: gawd...poor guy
.Gemô ÷: LOLOL Joy
Sißßy© {~J~}: :down
~Joy©Æ: *smoooooch*
Hank: :watch out Lance
Sißßy© {~J~}: theres an idea
Bobb *§: or lucky
Obi: )whip
Kandy©*§: wooohooo
Jonas {~ß~}: Later Sissy :-)
Lance: felt goo
Bobb *§: you go joy
Sißßy© {~J~}: LOL
~Joy©Æ: :goo?......gooey?
Bobb *§: needs a body tho
~Joy©Æ: :heh
Jonas {~ß~}: We have to grow up first
Lilady©: ^Q
Lance: good
.ªßJ´.: you work for acceess internet through ur house
~Joy©Æ: yeah ....we want a body!
Lance: sorry
Hank: you guys are embarassing him :-)
Bobb *§: awwww
.ªßJ´.: hah
Isa: somebody dress the guy
Ditzi §ø§: i would think so
Jonas {~ß~}: Aw he hasn't turned red yet...
Sißßy© {~J~}: well that means it is a warm welcome
SwtNita: you blush easy Lance?
Hank: YES LIL?
Lilady©: is there anything we have to change when we start
up a palace in a hosting server
Hank: change from a home server you mean?
Lilady©: or even turn things on
Lilady©: yes off my puter to u guys
Bobb *§: woooohooo lance
Kandy©*§: hehehehehe
.Deven ÷:
Kandy©*§: wtg
.ªßJ´.: just send em ur prp file day file
.ªßJ´.: dat
Hank: we change all the stuff that has to be changed when
we set you up
~Joy©Æ: :fine i'll just cross dress
~Joy©Æ: sheeesh
Lilady©: no i mean after im all on the hosting server
.Gemô ÷: wb sugar
.Deven ÷: :ummm go brb for a few an joysie gets sex change?
Hank: nope - nothing
~Joy©Æ: LOL
Bobb *§: lol
Kandy©*§: lol
Lilady©: ok but i set my kills and stuff
Hank: they can stay that way if ya want
.Deven ÷: lol mega
Lilady©: can i do any damage by following the list i got for
the guest, wiz and gods
~Joy©Æ: wut?
Obi: you might want to increse the flood limit a lil bit
when moving from a personal server to hosted...
.Deven ÷: ya crackin me up
.Gemô ÷: :angel my butt
Jonas {~ß~}: Lance...you can use the arrow buttons to move too
Hank: not sure what you mean lil
~Joy©Æ: :giggles
.Deven ÷: lol yup
.Deven ÷: :lil sk8ter angel
~Joy©Æ: uh huh
.ªßJ´.: dont give him that if a heh
Lance: thanks j
Jonas {~ß~}: yw
Lilady©: ok when i put my palace on ur server i was told i
had to turn things on
Hank: like what?
.ªßJ´.: is it true you guy's may not host anymore server's?
Lilady©: sorry i don't remember what it was
~Joy©Æ: :silence?
RedHook©: ^Q
.ªßJ´.: hrmm
* Obi * sorry if i have answered over you its a bad habit I
am head of my IS dept LOL
Lilady©: ^Q
Hank: yes red?
RedHook©: What agreements have to be made to use Palace in
commercial applications?
Hank: you have to have a commercial license
Jonas {~ß~}: monetary ones? LOL
Hank: at least that was the answer last month
Obi: pioneer license is personal right?
SwtNita: lol
Ditzi §ø§: lol
* .ªßJ´. * Is it true you guys may not be hosting any more server's?
Hank: yes - the commercial licenses are LOTS more expensive
RedHook©: How much?
Hank: no SJ - we're still takin servers
* .ªßJ´. * o ok
Hank: they are like $5000
Bobb *§: yikes
SwtNita: yikes
~Joy©Æ: ack!
Kandy©*§: pass
~Joy©Æ: :gotta win the lottery for sure now
Bobb *§: me too
Jonas {~ß~}: They pay for our freebies!
~Joy©Æ: i paid for palace!
.ªßJ´.: so did i
~Joy©Æ: :sigh
.ªßJ´.: well my member code
Bobb *§: rookie
Ditzi §ø§: lol i am now
.ªßJ´.: but they gave us free 50 codes for paying
Hank: the whole license thing has changed - so I'm not
sure of my answers
Bobb *§: me am i mean
GhostRider©Æ: *Paid $40 for client*
Bobb *§: fdree
~Joy©Æ: ^brb
Hank: you got a q lil?
Obi: 40? lol i paid 25 sheesh did we get scalped
Lilady©: what does the 'banlist {str} mean...want to know
what the [str] means
.ªßJ´.: mine was like 35
.ªßJ´.: for member code
Hank: ok - the banlist lets you look up a ban
Hank: the STR can be a regkey, a puid, a name, or an IP
Lilady©: ok ty
Hank: but....
Lilady©: but?
Obi: ^Q
~Joy©Æ:
Jonas {~ß~}: That's just to look up a particular one in your
banlist right?
Hank: the key you use to look up the ban has to be the
key that was used to make the ban
.ªßJ´.: brb
Mad Daddy: :Hank and his "but"
*** Page from System: .ªßJ´. has logged off, 8 wizards remain(including you)
~Joy©Æ: heh
Kandy©*§: LOL
Ditzi §ø§: LOL
Hank: :butt?
Sißßy© {~J~}: LOL
Lilady©: lol
Bobb *§: lol
Kandy©*§: wooohooo
Jonas {~ß~}: LOL
SwtNita: LOL hank
.Gemô ÷: LOLOL
~Joy©Æ: :munching
Bobb *§: bite him Jouy
~Joy©Æ: hey!
Jonas {~ß~}: ^Q
Hank: :watch the ears
~Joy©Æ: where's my lunch?
~Joy©Æ: sheesh
SwtNita: lmao
Hank: yes Obi?
.Deven ÷: lol GR
SwtNita: LOL ghost cute
~Joy©Æ: awwwww GR....too cute :)
Sißßy© {~J~}: GR that is GREAT
Obi: can you clarify the propcontrol command
~Joy©Æ: hahah Obi
Hank: yes and no
Kandy©*§: awww hon!...woooohoooeys
~Joy©Æ: yes and no?
Hank: it's new and I don't know a lot about it
Mad Daddy: :but?
~Joy©Æ: should i get my angel out too?
Isa: lol MD
Hank: I know what it's for - but not the details of usin it
Sißßy© {~J~}: From what I understand
.Deven ÷: :joy is buckin for class clown title
Ditzi §ø§: whats it for?
Obi: all i get when i turn it on is a message that says
only gods can add props...
SwtNita: lol Deven
Sißßy© {~J~}: the prop control is that they can only wear the
props in YOUR palace prp
Hank: it allows you to restrict what props people can wear
~Joy©Æ: welp
Obi: kinda made me think of custom off
Isa: hmmmmm
Mad Daddy: Cool
Bobb *§: hmmmm like south park
Kandy©*§: yep
~Joy©Æ: :ill be quiet now
Ditzi §ø§: i dont think ppl would like that
Sißßy© {~J~}: not sure tho
Ditzi §ø§: if they could only wear my props...hmmmm
~Joy©Æ: haha Ditzi
Obi: :thats why i want that 4.3.2 pdf lol
Hank: Southpark uses it
Hank: and everyone hates it
Bobb *§: i know
Bobb *§: maintains their theme though
~Joy©Æ: :hiding
GhostRider©Æ: Southpark is retarded, to begin with.
Obi: and their speed
Hank: Q over on the right?
Isa: :never been to Southpark...never want to
SwtNita: :another note, dont go to southpark
Lilady©: i have noticed the few times when im in the palace
some of my av disappears off of me
Jonas {~ß~}: Can the STR in the banlist command also be used to
find a keyword in your banlist comments?
Hank: yes and no
Jonas {~ß~}: LOL
Hank: the STR is very sensitive to case and such
Isa: :again with the yes and no?
Obi: :*nix
Mad Daddy: LOL Isa
Jonas {~ß~}: Ok
Hank: you pretty much have to get the name exactly right
Bobb *§: ^Q
Hank: sometimes it will find a partial name
~Joy©Æ: ^Q
Isa: ^Q
Jonas {~ß~}: No I don't mean for names
RedHook©: bbl
Ditzi §ø§: bye red
Jonas {~ß~}: I mean if you put "prop ban" in the COMMENTS for your ban...
Hank: what else wudya search for?
Hank: no - you can't ssearch the comments
Jonas {~ß~}: Oh ok
Obi: ^wish list items for uutil page
Hank: Bob?
Jonas {~ß~}: thanx
Bobb *§: anyway to combat those with antiallscray?
Kandy©*§: lol
Bobb *§: or Macs with a secret
Hank: yes - there are versions of allscray that cannot be defeated
~Joy©Æ: ^Q
Hank: I'll find one and send it out with the class log
Mad Daddy: :Nuke all Macs
Bobb *§: where can I find them
.Deven ÷: :pushy joysie wit her question
Hank: Joy?
Bobb *§: ty
~Joy©Æ: is there a way to see who used a certain script?
~Joy©Æ: like the blanket one?
Hank: most of the time yes
Hank: if you are wizzed up and in the room
Hank: when it happens
Hank: otherwise - no
~Joy©Æ: :i was
~Joy©Æ: but couldn't see it
~Joy©Æ: even the god couldn't see it
Hank: usually the log says "so and so is shouting"
Hank: then no - no way
~Joy©Æ: do you have it?
Hank: there is one trick I use
SwtNita: I only see that on a few scripts
Hank: turn off scripts - then watch for who says it
Jonas {~ß~}: LOL
Sißßy© {~J~}: to late then
Bobb *§: lol
~Joy©Æ: oooooooooo
Jonas {~ß~}: nice trick Hank
SwtNita: LOL
~Joy©Æ: clever!
Mad Daddy: :Oooo Tricky
Hank: yes Isa?
Jonas {~ß~}: Not when someone is on a roll sissy
~Joy©Æ: :snicker
Isa: this is a long one....
Hank: ok
Hank: go ahead too Obi
Obi: grep capability to search logs for people that dont
want to use unix and 2.notification by email of wizfails
Isa: about props that you sometimes can't see....I've
been told two different ways to make them appear...
Isa: dotting...and giving them a unique name
SwtNita: ohh cute joy
Hank: how about just a webpage to analyze logs for things
like wizfails?
Isa: which is better and why?
Obi: that would be nice
Hank: both work Isa
Sißßy© {~J~}: the new cersion is supposed to address teh prp seeing
Jonas {~ß~}: All props SHOULD be given a unique name regardless
of whether you see them or not Isa...
Jonas {~ß~}: And dotting always works for the stubborn ones
Mad Daddy: Rarely done
~Joy©Æ: :o
Isa: lol Jonas....in a perfect world
Hank: does everyone understand how props and prop rooms
work and how to fix em and back em up?
GhostRider©Æ: It sometimes werks.
Isa: ok...so name first..then dot if that doesn't work?
Lilady©: no
SwtNita: no new to prop rooms
Bobb *§: no
~Joy©Æ: a friend of mine couldn't find a corrupted prop?
Bobb *§: ditto what nita said
Jonas {~ß~}: Yeah Isa
Hank: y'all want the quick version of props 101?
Isa: thanks, Jonas
Mad Daddy: :Kinda clued in
~Joy©Æ: in her bag
Bobb *§: yes
~Joy©Æ: k
SwtNita: yes then maybe prop 102 too
Kandy©*§: go for it Hank
Hank: ok - the server has a prop bag and everyon's home
puter has a prop bag
Mad Daddy: :is this gonna be an all nighter?
~Joy©Æ: :shh MD
Ditzi §ø§: ^lol
Ditzi §ø§:
Hank: when you log on - the server sends yur puter a
message that says - use the following prop serial numbers
Hank: and yur client says - I am wearing the following
prop serial numbers
Hank: so - yur prop bag at home saves all the props you
have seen - not just the ones you see when you open yur bag
Hank: :that's why it gets so big
~Joy©Æ: lol
~Joy©Æ: why are some props corrupt?
~Joy©Æ: what causes it?
Jonas {~ß~}: They overeat
Hank: because they get sent back and forth so much
Hank: bits get corrupted in transmission
~Joy©Æ: ah
Obi: :specially at the adult palaces
~Joy©Æ: :really?
Hank: ok - so you log on and you see a guy with the left
side of his face missing
Mad Daddy: :Hate dem corrupted bits
Hank: the prop for the left side of his face is corrupt
either on the server or in yur home bag
~Joy©Æ: how do you fix it?
Hank: no real easy way to tell
~Joy©Æ: or is there a way?
~Joy©Æ: ah
Hank: you can do what Isa said - dot the prop or name it
Jonas {~ß~}: having the dot the missing piece usually always works
Jonas {~ß~}: having them even
SwtNita: wb J
~Joy©Æ: ya mean the pixel thingy?
Hank: that changes the serial number of the prop and it is resent
Jonas {~ß~}: yep
~Joy©Æ: wb SJ
.ªßJ´.: thanks
Obi: if its you that have the corrupt prop the server
will tell you
~Joy©Æ: k
.ªßJ´.: man i forgot my gate lock password..
GhostRider©Æ: Any way to get the corrupted prop out of the bags?
Hank: the new server versions reject corrupt props
SwtNita: flush
Hank: yes - purgew yur home bag
Hank: if the prop is corrupt there
~Joy©Æ: oh
Ditzi §ø§: to correct a corrupt prop...mark only one piece as
head and resave it
~Joy©Æ: is it better to purge props after every palace session?
Hank: if it is on the server you use flushprops and purgeprops
Hank: does everyone know about the server prop commands?
SwtNita: use both?
Hank: not both
SwtNita: ok
~Joy©Æ: i aint touching that one
* .ªßJ´. * is their a way i can get my lock password somewere
~Joy©Æ: no sireeeeeeeee
SwtNita: whats the diff then?
Lilady©: what is the difference between the flushprops and purgeprops
Hank: when you boot your server, the prop file is read into memory
Hank: purgeprops effects the memory copy only
SwtNita: ok
Hank: flushprops writes the file back to disk
Lilady©: do u do both?
Hank: usually do a flush if a purge dosen't help
Mad Daddy: That is only locally right?
SwtNita: ok
Hank: if you have prop rooms - do regular flushes
Jonas {~ß~}: But show your props to the server first
Ditzi §ø§: LOL and use bleach
Lilady©: my prop rooms aren't open yet
~Joy©Æ: how regular?
Hank: also - a purge or a flush will kill prop rooms if
you don't take precautions
~Joy©Æ: eeeekkkkkk!
SwtNita: precautions?
Hank: once a week is a good number Joy
Ditzi §ø§: yep flash n flush
Mad Daddy: :Paying close attention now
~Joy©Æ: k, thanks :)
Lilady©: what will happen?
GhostRider©Æ: Does keeping a prop vault, with the props out, on
the floor prevent that?
Hank: ok - the purge and the flush don't know one prop
from another - they will kill the props for yur prop rooms if yur not
careful
~Joy©Æ: k what to do then?
Bobb *§: wear them?
Hank: there are three ways to save the props for your
prop rooms from a flush or purge
Bobb *§: 1 a day?
Hank: 1- prop vault - what Ghost said
SwtNita: whats a prop vault?
GhostRider©Æ: Look, before you flush. Right?
Ditzi §ø§: which can fill up alot of rooms real fast
Hank: have a room where all the props are laying out
Hank: then the server is always seeing them so it dosen't
flush them
SwtNita: ohh ok
Jonas {~ß~}: Mother gets mad at us for that...too many! LOL
Hank: 2- Flash and Flush
Ditzi §ø§: lol yep
Hank: flash means go through yiur prop rooms
Hank: and look at your props
GhostRider©Æ: k
Jonas {~ß~}: :Don't forget your PRIVATE prop rooms for just yourself
Hank: then when you flush, the server will have just
'seen' them so it will leave them
SwtNita: ok
Hank: 3 - Flush and Flash
Hank: go ahead and flush - and then go in after and fill
the prop generators back in from yur bag
Jonas {~ß~}: ^Q
~Joy©Æ: won't save the props you don't have in your prob
bag tho..right?
Hank: yes Jonas?
SwtNita: no joy wont
Jonas {~ß~}: Is any one way better than another?
~Joy©Æ: k
Hank: no Joy
Hank: I like the Flush and Flash
Obi: :I may be anal about it but I keep seperate prop
bags for authoring and archive them so I can reload my rooms with if
I lose props
Jonas {~ß~}: Yeah that sounded more complete
Hank: ok - a word about your prop bag at home
SwtNita: me to obi
.Gemô ÷: i do too obi
Obi: 4- truncate and restore LOL
Sißßy© {~J~}: hehe me too now thanks to Obi
Hank: it has all the props you see when you open it -
PLUS every prop you have seen
Hank: yes - what OBI said is right
Mad Daddy: Is there a way to access all of them?
Hank: there are two ways to backup your props
SwtNita: i have a prop bag for each prop room
Hank: one is our user utility page
Jonas {~ß~}: Only one bag at a time Mad
GhostRider©Æ: With a super secret C program, MD.
Hank: the othe is your local prop bag
SwtNita: how with the server?
SwtNita: backups??
Hank: we have a utility on our page that will shut down
your server and make a backup copy of the prop file
Hank: you shud use it after you make a lot of prop changes
Ditzi §ø§: thats alot easier than downloading the prp file LOL
Hank: but the quickest and easiest backup is your local prop bag
~Joy©Æ: yeah what Ditzi said
Hank: thenif you really get a lot of corrupt props you do
what Obi said
Hank: you zero out the prop file and fill back in from
your local bag
Jonas {~ß~}: ^Q
Hank: yes Jonas?
Jonas {~ß~}: Is there a size limit to the prp anymore?
Jonas {~ß~}: Before it explodes?
~Joy©Æ: :good question
Hank: nope
Ditzi §ø§: oh cool
Mad Daddy: :Really really big
Hank: one last thing about props
Jonas {~ß~}: Client?
Hank: the "virgi" prop bag
Hank: oops
Hank: I meant virgin prop bag
~Joy©Æ: :we knew that
Mad Daddy: :I knew that
~Joy©Æ: :hehehe
Hank: if you have prop rooms - get a virgin prop bag
~Joy©Æ: gives a new meaning to Palace voc
Lilady©: where do u get it at?
Hank: that's a prop bag fresh from when you install palace
Obi: :an "ad" for a prop utility if I may
Sißßy© {~J~}: they are at the palace website
Hank: you can get it from the palace download section on
their web page
Ditzi §ø§: lol obi
Mad Daddy: Cool
Hank: the reason for a virgin prop bag is.....
SwtNita: think its download/extras
Mad Daddy: Pleas do Obi
Hank: if you want to really check out yur prop rooms -
use a virgin bag
Hank: otherwise any problems you see could be in yur ocal bag
Mad Daddy: :Isa should be able to help me with that
Hank: yes Obi?
~Joy©Æ: ^brb
Isa: lol MD.....virgin?
Obi: I wrote a prop bag changer for windows that will
allow you to have unlimited number of prop bags and also save the
macros associated with EACH bag
Mad Daddy: Uh-huh
Hank: cool
Kandy©*§: ooo Obi!
Obi: it installs a virgin bag when you add a prop bag
Bobb *§: wow
GhostRider©Æ: You stud.
.Deven ÷: ohhhhh
Hank: :need to talk to Obi
Obi: its freeware
Kandy©*§: give give give plzzzzy!
Sißßy© {~J~}: LOL
Jonas {~ß~}: LOL Hank!
Ditzi §ø§: i think i have it obi
Lilady©: :whats it called obi?
SwtNita: :Obi lost me
Hank: I just got a phone call from someone who
assasinated their palace
Isa: where can you get it?
Kandy©*§: :I wanna take Obi home
Bobb *§: ooops
Jonas {~ß~}: Uh oh Hank
Sißßy© {~J~}: oh no
Obi: you can download it from my website
Hank: ok if I go BRB for a few?
Obi: @10,10 ^My website: http://lexicon.chatserve.com
Captured a URL, see log.
I have captured a possible WWW address from Obi: "http://lexicon.chatserve.com"
SwtNita: addy obi?
SwtNita: ty
Isa: sure Hank
Jonas {~ß~}: Run hank Run
Hank: ^brb
GhostRider©Æ: ty Obi
Bobb *§: ty obi
Obi: also have a util that allows you to save alsscray
commands and such so that youdont typo
Ditzi §ø§: is that PFM obi?
Obi: yep
Mad Daddy: What is it called obi?
Ditzi §ø§: yeah...thanks
Bobb *§: woohoo
Lilady©: ty obi
Kandy©*§: Thank You! Obi
Kandy©*§: [[*-*]]
Hank: they are not there
Bobb *§: =^..^=
GhostRider©Æ: o well
SwtNita: anyplace to find a full list of allscray commands?
Obi: they are just iptscray
SwtNita: ok
GhostRider©Æ: anything you can do in Iptscrae. Swt.
Ditzi §ø§: Hank...is it suggestion time?
Jonas {~ß~}: Hey Obi...
Obi: anything new on the poundprotect command hank?
Jonas {~ß~}: They were asking for the names of your programs...
Mad Daddy: Hank is BRB
Hank: the pound protect command is undocumented
Obi: PFM for the propbag manager and ptms for the text
macro sender
Hank: you want to know about it?
Kandy©*§: aye
.Deven ÷: yes
Obi: i read something in the newsletter but was
wondering if you have anything new about it
Hank: ok - the new servers have an undocumented feature
for pound protection
Hank: nothing over what's in the newsletter
Hank: does anyone need an explanation of pounding?
Sißßy© {~J~}: yup
Isa: yes
SwtNita: please
Bobb *§: yes
Jonas {~ß~}: Nope
.Gemô ÷: yes please
GhostRider©Æ: ae
SwtNita: LOL Jonas
Lilady©: :im lost
Ditzi §ø§: lol jonas...lets just hope we dont get pounded
Jonas {~ß~}: Obi's my boss...he told me
SwtNita: LOL
Isa: :always wants to hear the explanations
Hank: ok - pounding is an attack on your server by
flooding it with invalid packets
Jonas {~ß~}: :-)
Bobb *§: yikes
Hank: a pounder attacks your server without logging on
Hank: so bans will not stop them
Sißßy© {~J~}: !YIKES
.Gemô ÷: whoaaa
Hank: the attack is at the packet level
GhostRider©Æ: The telnet peek?
Hank: the newer versions have protection against pounding built in
Sißßy© {~J~}: whew
Hank: but you have to turn it on
SwtNita: how?
Hank: CC says there will be a "minor performance hit" if
you turn it on
Sißßy© {~J~}: what does that mean
Kandy©*§: ???
Ditzi §ø§: what does that mean?
Bobb *§: lagg?
Hank: to turn it on just type 'poundprotect on
SwtNita: ok
Hank: from what I can see so far - the "minor performance
hit" is unnoticeable
Bobb *§: kewl
Hank: but I haven't done much testing
Mad Daddy: That is what is also known as a "denial of service"
attack correct?
Hank: what pound protection does is.........
Hank: if it sees more than a certain number of packets
from the same IP within a second - it locks out that IP
Isa: cool
SwtNita: kewl
Kandy©*§: whoaaaa great
Hank: yes - pounding is a denial of service attack - and
a federal crime
Mad Daddy: aka mass pinging
Hank: we have turned over three pounders to the FBI since
we started hosting palaces
Isa: does that work for people who are using scripts to
lag out the server to?
Sißßy© {~J~}: in otherwards if someone does a mass pingin
Sißßy© {~J~}: yeah what MD said
Hank: it is more than a mass pinging
.Gemô ÷: wow
Hank: mass pinging uses valid packets
Sißßy© {~J~}: ahhh
Hank: pounding uses garbage packets
Mad Daddy: Okay
Hank: the server has to spend time trying to figure out
each garbage packet - and gets bogged down
Obi: ;note to self stop pounding hank NOW
Isa: lol Obi
Jonas {~ß~}: LOL Obi
Kandy©*§: lol
Mad Daddy: LOL obi
Sißßy© {~J~}: LOL Obi
~Joy©Æ: well guys....i'm off..thanks for the info.....was great :)
Sißßy© {~J~}: ok so will it revers the pounding
Hank: :thas OK OBI - I'm sending you some nice people to
talk to you :-)
SwtNita: take care Joy
Jonas {~ß~}: Night Joy
Lilady©: bye joy
.Deven ÷: laters mega
Sißßy© {~J~}: and shut THEM down
~Joy©Æ: you all take care :)
GhostRider©Æ: Laterz, Joy.
Kandy©*§: toodles Joy...take care
Bobb *§: bye Joy
~Joy©Æ: :poof
.Gemô ÷: later megas
Ditzi §ø§: bye joy
*** Page from System: ~Joy©Æ has logged off, 7 wizards remain(including you)
Hank: bye Joy
Jonas {~ß~}: You can't "reverse" a pounding Sissy
Jonas {~ß~}: But it will ban their IP
Sißßy© {~J~}: thats a shame
Obi: :you can but its illegal
Mad Daddy: LOL
Hank: :what Obi said
Jonas {~ß~}: LOL as I said Obi...
Isa: lol Obi
Jonas {~ß~}: LOL
Lance: later joy
Jonas {~ß~}: Two wrongs make four cuffs...
GhostRider©Æ: Anything's legal, if you don't get caught.
Hank: anyone got any security rumors/questions/etc?
Ditzi §ø§: i have a suggestion
Isa: I have a question about allscray
Hank: ok
SwtNita: yes.. anything being done about cey`tan
Hank: who's that?
GhostRider©Æ: A major Jerk.
SwtNita: he hacked 2 sites, killed 118 rooms in Dawn2Dusk
Isa: yup
Sißßy© {~J~}: lol
Hank: send me his info
Sißßy© {~J~}: yeah he sure did
Jonas {~ß~}: Ouch
.Gemô ÷: gotta run...thanks for everything hank.
SwtNita: ok i have it in mail
Hank: I'll talk to his ISP
.Gemô ÷: have a good one folks
Jonas {~ß~}: Night Gem
Obi: yes... how secure is the uutils page? especially
since our passwords are up there...
SwtNita: I got a mail he had 3 or 4 IPs
.Deven ÷: yep yep..laters all
Ditzi §ø§: bye
Obi: nighht gem
Kandy©*§: u too Gem...hugggerz
.Deven ÷: tanks for the info hank
Hank: they are as secure as yur passwords
Isa: his IP is an AOL...so it doesn't matter
Jonas {~ß~}: I think that's the question Hank...LOL
Jonas {~ß~}: How secure ARE our passwords? LOL
Ditzi §ø§: ^suggestion
Hank: question for you all - I have mixed feelings about
the password lookup utuility
SwtNita: I dont like it
Obi: i dont like it either
Hank: is it a handy feature or a security risk?
Jonas {~ß~}: Risk
Isa: both
SwtNita: risk
GhostRider©Æ: *Never seen it*
Jonas {~ß~}: IMO
Kandy©*§: Risk
Lance: risk
Bobb *§: risk
Ditzi §ø§: i love it because to lock a room there is no double
command to enter the password
Hank: I agree
Obi: packet sniffer means your smoked
Hank: we'll take it down
Ditzi §ø§: so if you mistype it...then you cant find it
Bobb *§: write it down
Bobb *§: off the puter
Ditzi §ø§: yes but if you make a typeo...then you cant get in
Hank: the alternative is if you lose yur wiz and god
words you will have to contact us to get it
Obi: thats acceptable
Jonas {~ß~}: I'd rather do that hank
Kandy©*§: yep
Bobb *§: nods
GhostRider©Æ: Gotta edit the pscript, Ditz.
Hank: ok - that's how I feel about it too
Hank: thanks for the confirmation :-)
Obi: now if only you used secure login on telnet LOL
Ditzi §ø§: is that info in the dat file?
Jonas {~ß~}: LOL go Obi
GhostRider©Æ: YEah. The dat.
Hank: the passwords are in the dat file yes - encrypted
Ditzi §ø§: k
Ditzi §ø§: well chit i cant read encrypted
GhostRider©Æ: I use SCI, too. There, it's the pscript.
Hank: our shell does support secure shell Obi
Isa: room passwords are encrypted too?
Hank: yes Isa
Obi: great I will start using it then thx!
Ditzi §ø§: good thing chatserve is halfway local...ill just call LOL
Obi: if they get your dat it doesnt matter you are
through until you fix the security hole IMO
Hank: yea for you Ditzi :-)
Ditzi §ø§: ^suggestion
Hank: yes?
Ditzi §ø§: i think the email list to hook up all chatserve
palaces is an excellent idea....and
Hank: :and?
Ditzi §ø§: i think there should be a way for publicity....in
addition to the announcements on the palace page
Hank: like what?
Mad Daddy: Special palace events?
Ditzi §ø§: like upcoming events...or new and exciting rooms
Hank: we have a listing on our web site
Hank: ok
Obi: use a sign as your entry av then go hopping LOL
Jonas {~ß~}: LOL Obi...
Isa: lol Obi
Ditzi §ø§: would be nice to have another form of publicity
Hank: hey Obi?
Mad Daddy: LOL Obi
Jonas {~ß~}: :done that
Bobb *§: lol
Obi: ruh roh...busted yes hank?
Jonas {~ß~}: LOL
SwtNita: lol
Lilady©: lol
Hank: can I steal that AV? :-)
Jonas {~ß~}: LOL
Sißßy© {~J~}: LOL
Kandy©*§: lol
SwtNita: LOL
Obi: you can have it
Sißßy© {~J~}: man he has had that for YEARS
Hank: !THANKS!!
Obi: give it back
GhostRider©Æ: It is a cutie.
Obi: LOL
Isa: lol
Mad Daddy: :Hank be a happy camper
Jonas {~ß~}: LMAO
SwtNita: lol Obi
Kandy©*§: aye it is...lol
Hank: you said I cud have it :-P
Obi: LOL hank
Isa: time for an allscray Q?
Hank: ok Isa
Hank: :gonna yotefy this
Isa: it's about the script that stops allscray from working
Hank: anti-allscray - yes
Isa: you said there is a version that gets around that, right?
Hank: yup
GhostRider©Æ: !Death to antiscray!!
Kandy©*§: awww hon!...lol
Hank: I'll find it and add it to the log of this class
Obi: just kill em LOL no script blocks that
Isa: ok.....what about the people that try to use
allscray on a god to get the passwords in a palace?
Mad Daddy: LOL
Kandy©*§: Hank..do both?
Hank: there is no way to use allscray to get a password - but......
SwtNita: yikies Isa
Jonas {~ß~}: That's when ban comes in handy Isa
Jonas {~ß~}: LOL
SwtNita: but again
Mad Daddy: :but again
Isa: if the allscray protection doesn't work, are we at
risk again?
Ditzi §ø§: well it happened to me
Hank: if yur allscray is set up so that non wiz/gods can
access it....
Isa: I've seen it done, Hank
Hank: then people can use wizzes and gods like bots
Isa: exactly
Hank: but they cannot get the password
Isa: and I have the allscray stop thing to prevent that
Obi: use ao and restrict it to badge wearing wizards...
Isa: but...should I have something else?
Hank: :what Obi said
SwtNita: you mean the stars obi?
Isa: don't allow as?
Hank: ^phone
Ditzi §ø§: and what is that text string exactly?
Isa: in the palace at all?
Obi: on my webpage
Obi: LOL
Mad Daddy: LOL
Jonas {~ß~}: LOL
GhostRider©Æ: as...ao...doesn't matter, as long as you restrict
to badged ppl.
Kandy©*§: :got that booked
Sißßy© {~J~}: plethera of info on that site
SwtNita: gonna have a lota visits to your web page
Mad Daddy: :Obi is going for 100K hits
Jonas {~ß~}: LOL
Ditzi §ø§: is that a string we should put in the gate?
Ditzi §ø§: or in our borg?
Obi: and in each room you want to use it
Obi: no not the borg
GhostRider©Æ: It is part of the core scray script, at the gate.
SwtNita: :sigh
Isa: what does it do exactly, Ghost?
Isa: looks for the *?
Ditzi §ø§: so if its at the gate and it is global then we are
protected right?
GhostRider©Æ: It is an if statement, that checks the name for a star.
Isa: k, Ghost
Obi: LOL you can make alscay do all kind of fun things
Isa: we have that
GhostRider©Æ: No Star, no go.
Isa: but I have seen someone come into the
palace...without the star
Isa: take over a god
SwtNita: ouch
Isa: and run with it
Kandy©*§: yikes!
Jonas {~ß~}: Only wiz/gods can wear the star
Ditzi §ø§: and sent me to kids nation...ROFL
Isa: right
Mad Daddy: LOL
GhostRider©Æ: Take over, how?
SwtNita: LOL Di
Bobb *§: how isa
Obi: probably because the god used zombie in his/her borg
Obi: DUMB move
GhostRider©Æ: Not if the scray and their borg are right.
Isa: dunno, Ghost....he said he did it with allscray
Ditzi §ø§: it wasnt a god or a wiz and i was goded up
Lilady©: i have a wiz that can pin a god in his borg
Isa: that's when we put the stop allscray commands in our borg
Mad Daddy: : I think we should all make a point of visiting Obi's page
SwtNita: that can be gotten around tho Isa
Kandy©*§: :hmmm need that too then
Obi: never ever have zombie in your borg if you are a wiz
Isa: yeah..he was a guest...we were gods
Ditzi §ø§: then he changed the god password too
Kandy©*§: noted Obi
Isa: yup...locked us out of the palace
GhostRider©Æ: How did he get the pw?
SwtNita: damn Di, did you know who he was?
Ditzi §ø§: yeah
Isa: he was just playing...not malicious
Ditzi §ø§: i dunno ghost...from his borg
Isa: showing us what peeps could do
Kandy©*§: dam!
Bobb *§: ditto1
Bobb *§: !
Kandy©*§: u thinkn what i'm thinkn bb
Mad Daddy: :waving hand wildly, "I think I know who it is"
Sißßy© {~J~}: did you find out how he got the PW
Ditzi §ø§: so we were told if we put anti scray in our
borg...then that couldnt happen
Isa: any suggestions?
SwtNita: I know someone who had gotten around peps with
anitallscray in their borgs
GhostRider©Æ: That doesn't explain how he got the godpass.
Ditzi §ø§: he didnt get it...he changed it
Sißßy© {~J~}: did he tell you how he changed it
GhostRider©Æ: You can't change pws without first having it.
Obi: the godpass should NOT be in your borg
Isa: it's not
Obi: but if you have zombie enabled and he "zombies" you
then he can make you change passwords and etc
Isa: but what I'm wondering is about the stuff that
stops the anti-allscray
Jonas {~ß~}: You can't change the god pw unless you are a God
Isa: he did it without being a god, Jonas
Ditzi §ø§: i dont think i have zombie
Mad Daddy: What Obi said
GhostRider©Æ: With say...ahhhhh... *LIGHTBULB*
GhostRider©Æ: Does that werk?
Kandy©*§: know that..
SwtNita: is lightbulb, halo, etc zombi??
Ditzi §ø§: dont have zombie in my borg
Isa: what is a zombie?
Obi: when hank gets off the phobne I would like to try something
Isa: explain that please?
Mad Daddy: :Obi is going to breath fire?
Obi: zombie is a script that allows someone else to
control your client
Ditzi §ø§: with zombie in there they execute a command...that
makes you change it only you dont know it
SwtNita: obi blonde here, dunno what you mean
Isa: without your consent? and how do you stop it?
GhostRider©Æ: Don't put it in your borg.
Jonas {~ß~}: take zombie outta yer borg
Ditzi §ø§: make sure you dont have zombie in your borg
Mad Daddy: Why would anyone want that in their script?
Isa: never heard of it before...I don't have it
Ditzi §ø§: cept i dont have it so i still dont know how he did it
Sißßy© {~J~}: do you have to have it in YOUR borg for them to be
able to use it?
Obi: for bots mainly
Kandy©*§: me neither...
GhostRider©Æ: DMSB?? Who knows.
Bobb *§: dom/sub?
Jonas {~ß~}: yes Sissy
Sißßy© {~J~}: ty
GhostRider©Æ: ^BRB
Mad Daddy: Hmmm
Hank: back
Isa: wb
Bobb *§: wb hank
Lilady©: wb
Ditzi §ø§: wb
Kandy©*§: w/b Hank
SwtNita: wb hank
Jonas {~ß~}: :ooh goodie
Hank: thanks
Jonas {~ß~}: wb Hank
Hank: :love this AV Obi
Mad Daddy: :Have to remember to zombify scriptsI hand out
Jonas {~ß~}: Now we can watch Obi make Hank his guinea pig....
Isa: lol MD
Obi: hank we have been having a discussion on zombie and
passwords I have a proposition for you
Hank: ok
GhostRider©Æ: DMSB=Dum Sum Bit
Obi: but i would like to try it later in private and you
can email the results to the palace owners
Hank: :is this gonna hurt?
Kandy©*§: w/b and LOL
SwtNita: LOL hank
Mad Daddy: Awwwwwwwwwww
Bobb *§: awwwwwwwww
Ditzi §ø§: LOL
Obi: kind of make them feel better about the whole thing
Mad Daddy: I wanna watch
Hank: feel bvetter about what?
Bobb *§: me too X2
Lilady©: me too..
Obi: the password changing by allscray issue
Jonas {~ß~}: You gotta lotta scrollin to do Hank...LOL
Hank: ah
Ditzi §ø§: lol
Hank: I see
Mad Daddy: :Obi is on top of this stuff
Hank: if yur allscray is set up wrong - a snert could use
a god to set the passowrds
Kandy©*§: dang
Obi: yep
Hank: wow - that's right
Obi: or a mad wiz...
Mad Daddy: :aha
Ditzi §ø§: so do a search for zombie on our borg?
GhostRider©Æ: Got the essence; but, what exactly is a snert?
Isa: uh-huh
SwtNita: then just how should it be set up to block that?
Hank: a snert is just a generic name for a troublemaker
Jonas {~ß~}: :snert
Obi: LOL Jonas
Hank: zombie has nothin to do with it
Mad Daddy: :Snert Daddy?
Isa: yes...how do we know we have that blocked?
Ditzi §ø§: uh oh
Hank: yur allscray has to be set up so it is accessable
only to wizzes and gods
Isa: did that...didn't help
SwtNita: can you add that to the log then Hank?
Sißßy© {~J~}: psst
Hank: sure
Isa: he got in anyway
GhostRider©Æ: Also, set it to not effect staff.
Hank: who?
Obi: isa you probably didnt restrict it
SwtNita: :need allscray classes
Isa: restrict it how? besides the * thing?
Obi: take a peek at my website it shows the restricted
and NON restricted versions
Ditzi §ø§: so you will put instructions on how to restrict this?
Isa: ok, Obi
GhostRider©Æ: That's hoe, I.
SwtNita: ok obi
Mad Daddy: :Listen to Obi Isa, he has a ray gun
Hank: log onto your palace and try to use allscray to get
someone to saysomething - without wizzing up
GhostRider©Æ: how, even
Jonas {~ß~}: LOL MD
Isa: with msay?
Hank: if you can use allscray without wizzing up - that
is a MAJOR security problem
Hank: no - allscray
GhostRider©Æ: not msay. just say
Isa: well, I can't use it without wizzin up...but he did
Ditzi §ø§: thats right
Obi: like as 'godpass iownyounowhahahahahaha
GhostRider©Æ: Is there scray in here?
Isa: how did he do that?
Obi: *wink*
Hank: not sure - Obi?
Obi: huh hank?
Bobb *§: ;allscray "Yes" say
Bobb *§: nope
Hank: why wud a non wiz be able to allscray
Isa: lol Bobb
Ditzi §ø§: something in his borg allowed him to
Obi: some palaces think its a cool way to let nonmembers
play with scripts
*GhostRider©Æ: ;as "Hank be da bomb." say
Bobb *§: yikes
Obi: a throwback to the pay for palace days
Isa: yeah, he said he had something in his borg that got around it
*GhostRider©Æ: No werky.
Obi: very dangerous as hank said
Hank: :I don't have allscray here
Bobb *§: nope
Obi: snerts tend to lie and make you think they are
smarter than they are
Ditzi §ø§: lol
Isa: but I saw him do it ,Obi...dunno how he did it, but he did
Hank: ok guys I gotta run work at the fair
Isa: I thought someone here might know?
Ditzi §ø§: thank god he was a friend and was alerting us
GhostRider©Æ: Thanx a bunch, Hank.
Jonas {~ß~}: Thanks for your time Hank
Kandy©*§: k Hank ...thanx...very informative
Sißßy© {~J~}: thanks for EVERYTHING Hank
Obi: if you have allscray for everyone he could
SwtNita: nice to meet you hank thank you
Isa: thanks Hank
Bobb *§: thanks hank
Sißßy© {~J~}: very educational
Lilady©: ty hank and have a nice time
Obi: have a great day hank
Ditzi §ø§: thank you Hank
GhostRider©Æ: Where's yer palace, Isa?
Kandy©*§: and we will get the log with the goodies right/
Mad Daddy: :I think if anyone knew it would prolly be Obi
Hank: I'll post the log
Kandy©*§: okies
Bobb *§: when?
Hank: feel fre to stay and chat
SwtNita: kewl gonna need it
Sißßy© {~J~}: carreful MD
Isa: you wanna come steal the passwords, Ghost?...LOLOL
Kandy©*§: will check back for it
Hank: today
Bobb *§: cool
Obi: gr can you go to isas and see if you can allscry as
a non wiz?
GhostRider©Æ: Just see if I can finger it out, fer ya.
Hank: ok have a blast all - thanks for comin
SwtNita: where will it be posted at?
Kandy©*§: Fantastic! huggggy
Hank: Obi - we'll talk :-)
Mad Daddy: Thanks Hank
Isa: k, Ghost....ladyluck.chatserve.com
Hank: it will be on our web page
Kandy©*§: k
SwtNita: ty
Hank: :poof
GhostRider©Æ: got it.
Obi: i am on a firewall so I have to add her to go there
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