August 14, 1999 Palace Class held by Hank

Opening Log
Lilady©:          yw hank
Mad Daddy:        Hi Nita
SwtNita:          Hello, .ªßJ´, Hank, Sißßy© {~J~}, Lilady, Ragdoll, 
Bobb *§, Nawnie, Smokie, Mad Daddy and Ditzi §ø§
Smokie©:          hi hank
Ragdoll:          hi Ditzi
.ªßJ´.:           hey Swt
Ditzi §ø§:        hi everyone
SwtNita:          hiya SJ
.ªßJ´.:           hello
Nawnie©:          Hey Hank havent seen you in forever..:)
Hank:             !NAWNIE!!
Lilady©:          smokie is comfy
Smokie©:          yep
.ªßJ´.:           lol
Nawnie©:          Smiles.;)
Smokie©:          have to be
Lilady©:          is that allowed to be that comfy
Lilady©:          haha
Hank:             comfy is allowed :-)
Smokie©:          hahA
Smokie©:          thanks hank
Smokie©:          lol
Lilady©:          lol
Ditzi §ø§:        LOL
Lilady©:          shhhhh just don't tell hank that im sleeping
Lilady©:          haha
Ragdoll:          :i know i gots some litte peeps in dis bag somewhere
SwtNita:          LOL
Nawnie©:          I got some...Doll
*** class starting in 1 minute in the class hall
.ªßJ´.:           hello lost
Bobb *§:          wow
Bobb *§:          hiyas all
Lost Reality:     yea look at sam
Hank:             welcome everybody
Ditzi §ø§:        Bobb you look pretty comfy too
~SuzySpice©ô:     oopsie
Bobb *§:          I am
Lilady©:          ty
Bobb *§:          ty
Lost Reality:     Hi all
Ragdoll:          ty suga:)
~SuzySpice©ô:     howdeeeee
Mutlea©ß:         lol
Mad Daddy:        Hank is sooooo....... BIG
Ditzi §ø§:        hi lost
Nawnie©:          Helllo Lost..:)
Bobb *§:          hiyas lost
Mutlea©ß:         Hey ya'll
SwtNita:          hiya Lost
Hank:             :it's the stool
Ragdoll:          hi Mutlea
Ditzi §ø§:        lmao J
SwtNita:          hiya Mutlea
~SuzySpice©ô:     cmere lost
.ªßJ´.:           heh.
~SuzySpice©ô:     sista
Mutlea©ß:         yeah??
Bobb *§:          hiyas obi
Sißßy© {~J~}:     hey Obi
SwtNita:          hya obi
.ªßJ´.:           hola Obi
Obi:              HI all
~SuzySpice©ô:     you on stage for a reason, lol
Lilady©:          hi obi, suzy, lost mutlea
Hank:             ok we'll go ahead and get started and let 
stragglers show up when they want
~SuzySpice©ô:     hi there lillady
Mad Daddy:        :remember to shut down ICQ
~SuzySpice©ô:     oakis hank, mush
.ªßJ´.:           heh ghost
Ditzi §ø§:        LOL daddy
Hank:             I'm Hank - I work at Chatserve as the Ops Manager
Bobb *§:          hiyas gr
Mutlea©ß:         Hey there Ghost
Ditzi §ø§:        good to see ya Hank
GhostRider©Æ:     Hi, all.
Hank:             Ty Johnston is another guy you've probly talked to 
a lot - but he's playing in Yosemite today
Bobb *§:          lucky him
.ªßJ´.:           hehe always talkin to him heh
Hank:             Ty and I deal with all the palace support
Hank:             :until we get the rest of the techs trained
Ragdoll:           :)
.ªßJ´.:           hi Jonas
Ditzi §ø§:        You guys do an awsome job Hank
Hank:             let's start by everyone saying their name and what 
palace they're from
Jonas {~ß~}:      Hiya SJ
.ªßJ´.:           ok
Mad Daddy:        Mad Daddy, Lady Luck Palace
SwtNita:          SwtNita/Crystal Ranch
Jonas {~ß~}:      I'm Jonas from Lexicon's Labyrinth
~SuzySpice©ô:     ^Suzy-Paradise-South
Smokie©:          Paradise South
Ragdoll:          Ragdoll/Cybercity
Nawnie©:          Nawnie from CyberCity
Obi:              Obi/Lexicon's Labyrinth
Bobb *§:          Bobb *§  Purrfect Illusions
Sißßy© {~J~}:     Sißßy Lexicons Labyrinth
Lilady©:          Lilady......Love Connections
~SuzySpice©ô:
.ªßJ´.:           Im SJ im from props r us and palace city apt's/props
GhostRider©Æ:     GhostRider©Æ from Purrfect Illusions.
Ditzi §ø§:        Ditzi from Lady Luck
Mutlea©ß:         Mut, Paradise South
Hank:             ok cool
Lost Reality:     Lost Paradise South
Mad Daddy:        :That was fun
~SuzySpice©ô:     lol
SwtNita:          lol MD
~SuzySpice©ô:     cute lost
Lost Reality:     lol
Hank:             first off - contacting tech support
Hank:             we have a lot of people trying to reach tech support thru ICQ
Hank:             ICQ sucks
Ditzi §ø§:        lol
Nawnie©:          lol
Mad Daddy:        :NS
Lost Reality:     here here
Hank:             yur best way is email to support@accesscom.com
Hank:             you can try ICQ but I can't guaruntee results
Hank:             my ICQ is 1071680
Nawnie©:          woohoo.:)
Nawnie©:          hehe
Ragdoll:           :)
Hank:             ok - recent news
Mad Daddy:        :massive add time
~SuzySpice©ô:     not a new one is it hank
Hank:             we've got the new T1's in and running
.ªßJ´.:           yes there great
Ditzi §ø§:        cool
Hank:             nope - same old number
~SuzySpice©ô:     k
.ªßJ´.:           my server has been running alot faster
Hank:             we're still tweaking the lines to balance the load 
but the lag shud be a lot better
Ragdoll:          hey Dev:)
Hank:             hiya Dev
.Deven ÷:         hiyas
SwtNita:          hiya Dev
Hank:             where ya from Devf - what palace?
Hank:             the next big question seems to be the new licences
Hank:             everyone know about them?
Sißßy© {~J~}:     yes
Ragdoll:          :nod
Ditzi §ø§:        yeah
~SuzySpice©ô:     yeppers
Jonas {~ß~}:      yep
.Deven ÷:         yeppers
Nawnie©:          mmhmm
Mad Daddy:        :y
Ragdoll:          :was cool too
.ªßJ´.:           ye
Hank:             people have been askin what that means to yur limits here
Hank:             the answer is - no change :-)
Hank:             we still have the two packages - 50 and 100
.Deven ÷:         kewlies
Isa:
Ragdoll:           :)
.ªßJ´.:           were allowed to register a 1000 reg code right if 
we set it to are limit's for what server were payin for
Ditzi §ø§:        hiya isa
Hank:             right
.ªßJ´.:           ok
SwtNita:          hiya isa hugz
Hank:             we're considering a change in the plans that I 
think y'all will really like
~SuzySpice©ô:     oh?
Hank:             I gotta get it past the accountant first :-)
Mad Daddy:        :Free beer?
.Deven ÷:         lol
~SuzySpice©ô:     lol
Ragdoll:          : )
Mutlea©ß:         LOL
Jonas {~ß~}:      LOL
Ditzi §ø§:        hehehe
Hank:             I'm not gonna say anymore cuz the accountant will hurt me
Jonas {~ß~}:      LOL
Ragdoll:          lol
Hank:             and she studies martial arts
Sißßy© {~J~}:     cant have that
SwtNita:          LOL
Lilady©:          awwwww
.ªßJ´.:           heh
Obi:              :and signs your check too
GhostRider©Æ:     
Lilady©:          teehee!
~SuzySpice©ô:     kiss kiss!
.Deven ÷:         :damn the accountant
~SuzySpice©ô:     oh man
Hank:             if any of you ever call in for billing problems - 
the gal to talk to is Wendy
Hank:             she helps us pay for all this :-)
Ditzi §ø§:        k
Hank:             ok - the next big question seems to be version 4.3.2
Hank:             you all know it's available?
SwtNita:          y
Sißßy© {~J~}:     uh huh
~SuzySpice©ô:     yes
Lilady©:          yes
Bobb *§:          yep
~SuzySpice©ô:     on it
Jonas {~ß~}:      Yup
Ragdoll:          :is much better too
Sißßy© {~J~}:     yes it is
.ªßJ´.:           yes
Hank:             ok does anyone have any questions about converting 
- and prop rooms
.Deven ÷:         yep yep
Ditzi §ø§:        how come i dont notice a difference
GhostRider©Æ:     Is it any better than the New Personal server. That 
is garbage.
.Deven ÷:         nopers
SwtNita:          cuz your ditzi
Smokie©:          lol
Hank:             there is no real difference except a few commands
Hank:             the main difference is stability
Hank:             it fixes a lot of bugs
Obi:              yeah can you kill a prop from the propfile yet? I 
know you can kill a prop on a user but I want it outta my propfile
Hank:             like the random hide bug
Ditzi §ø§:        Do we still need to do the prop maintenance?
Kandy©*§:         !Hi! Again, So Glad to be Back
Hank:             no you can't kill just a single prop
GhostRider©Æ:     I saw one of the new pers, had blocks of rooms in 
the script 3 times.
GhostRider©Æ:     Had a devil of a time sorting it out.
Bobb *§:          hiyas K
Hank:             ya that's actually a bug in the client software for the PC
Kandy©*§:         hey !
Kandy©*§:         y amind?
Obi:              :use a text editor
Bobb *§:          not you not ever
Ditzi §ø§:        Hank, we still need to flush the props regularly?
Kandy©*§:         hey Swt
Hank:             CC (new name) says you should use the new ad client 
to prevent authoring errors
GhostRider©Æ:     Ended up hand converting it; and installing old server.
SwtNita:          hiya kandy :)
Hank:             :but then maybe they just want you to see the ads :-)
.ªßJ´.:           i hate when my doors get stuck ...
Jonas {~ß~}:      LOL
Hank:             so no questions on 4.3.2?
Ditzi §ø§:        YES
Ditzi §ø§:        LOL
Hank:             does everyone know about the new setrank command?
.ªßJ´.:           no
Bobb *§:          no
SwtNita:          no
Jonas {~ß~}:      no
Lilady©:          no
Smokie©:          no
.Deven ÷:         nope
~SuzySpice©ô:     yes
GhostRider©Æ:     no
Obi:              yes
Ditzi §ø§:        Do we still need to do the prop maintenance ? flush props?
.ªßJ´.:           ye i think ditzi
Hank:             the setrank command lets you set who can do what
Hank:             like kill, pin, etc
.ªßJ´.:           oh really sweet!
Obi:              yes ditzi you do
Isa:              how 'bout authoring?
.ªßJ´.:           like only let gods author
Ditzi §ø§:        lmao thanks
Hank:             yes you still have to do prop maintenance
~Joy©Æ:           :boo
Hank:             yes SJ
~Joy©Æ:           hiyas :)
Ragdoll:          hey joy
.Deven ÷:         :whut?
~Joy©Æ:           lol
.ªßJ´.:           omg yes
.ªßJ´.:           would it be 'setrank author godsonly?
Hank:             no
.ªßJ´.:           or somethin
.Deven ÷:         hiyas mega
~Joy©Æ:           hiya Deven :)
Hank:             the format is 'setrank 'command rank
Hank:             the ranks are.......
.ªßJ´.:           o ok
Hank:             0=guest or java
.ªßJ´.:           thankie
Hank:             1=registered member
Hank:             2=wizard
Hank:             3=god
Hank:             so - let's say you only wanted gods to be able to kill
Hank:             it would be 'setrank 'kill 3
Jonas {~ß~}:      OIC
.ªßJ´.:           ^'setrank 'author 3
.ªßJ´.:           that right
.Deven ÷:         kewlies
Hank:             yup
Sißßy© {~J~}:     very nice feature for a change
.ªßJ´.:           that rule's
Hank:             everyone is welcome to god up during the class here
Lilady©:          does that mean they can go into ur author mode and 
turn it on too the wiz?
Hank:             the godpass is qsx3fty
*** Page from System: Kandy©*§ denied wizard access
*** Page from System: ~Joy©Æ made god
*** Page from System: .ªßJ´. made god
*** Page from System: Obi made god
*** Page from System: Bobb *§ made god
*** Page from System: GhostRider©Æ made god
Hank:             ok - another cool new command
Isa:              is there a problem with locks on rooms that you know of?
~Joy©Æ:           :lol
*** Page from System: Ragdoll made god
.Deven ÷:         grins
*** Page from System: Mad Daddy made god
*** Page from System: SwtNita denied wizard access
Hank:             there is a problem with locks on rooms and CC is workin on it
~Joy©Æ:           :lotsogods here
Lilady©:          i get problems sometime with lock disappearing
.ªßJ´.:           Hank
Obi:              paste it nita
Hank:             everyone does
Ragdoll:          :ahhh nice to know
Isa:              ohhh.....well, at least I'm not imagining it
Mad Daddy:        :god-o-rama
Ditzi §ø§:        lol
.ªßJ´.:           is their a problem on fixing doors that get stuck 
in the corners or something eithout going into your pserver dat
Hank:             it seems to be a bug in the PC client
~Joy©Æ:           hiya Gem Gem :)
Nawnie©:           Hello Gem..:)
.Deven ÷:         !baby
.Gemô  ÷:         Hi, .ªßJ´., Hank, Sißßy© {~J~}, Lilady©, Ragdoll, 
Bobb *§, Nawnie©, Smokie©, Mad Daddy, Ditzi §ø§, SwtNita, .Deven ÷, 
Isa, ~SuzySpice©ô, Obi, GhostRider©Æ, Jonas {~ß~}, Kandy©*§, ~Joy©Æ
*** Page from System: SwtNita made god
Lilady©:          hi gem
Hank:             yes - the problem with doors dissapearing is a client bug
Bobb *§:          hiya gem
.ªßJ´.:           darn
Ragdoll:          hey Gemmers:)
~SuzySpice©ô:     oh man
Mad Daddy:        :bug-o-rama
.ªßJ´.:           for pc's only
.ªßJ´.:           ?
SwtNita:          hiya gem
Hank:             pc only - yes
.ªßJ´.:           oh damn
Ditzi §ø§:        Thats when its good to know a few mac users
SwtNita:          i gotta lota doors do that
.ªßJ´.:           Hnak
.ªßJ´.:           Hank
Hank:             there are a lot of bugs with doors
Hank:             yes?
.ªßJ´.:           how come when i move rooms downthe list they wont move down
Hank:             hmm hadn't heard that one
Ragdoll:          :mine move
.ªßJ´.:           like 'downlist
Obi:              refresh the list maybe?
Nawnie©:          mmhmm..
.ªßJ´.:           and how many you want it down
.ªßJ´.:           i tryed
Hank:             ok let me get thru none more new command and I'll 
open it up for questions
~SuzySpice©ô:     mine move ok
Obi:              it wont show right away but if you CTRL G twice...
.ªßJ´.:           o ok
Hank:             there is a new command that lets you see all the 
settings on your server
*** Palace Server 4.3.2 Build 506 i686-unknown-linux Mon Jun 21 
18:48:21 PDT 1999
SwtNita:          kewl
Hank:             type 'reportprefs
Jonas {~ß~}:      Ooh nice :-)
.ªßJ´.:           wow sweet
~Joy©Æ:           cool beans!
~Joy©Æ:           wow that is so cool
.ªßJ´.:           arg i got another ? heh is their a way to change 
what your palace says at the a-z list while your on god mode
Ragdoll:          :nod
Hank:             you mean the blurb?
.ªßJ´.:           im not sure is that how?
~Joy©Æ:           yep
Hank:             you can't change the blurb from god mode
.ªßJ´.:           darn
Hank:             but - you can from our utility page
.ªßJ´.:           o ok
~SuzySpice©ô:     lol
Hank:             everyone know about the utility page?
SwtNita:          yes
.Gemô  ÷:         yup
Bobb *§:          no
Jonas {~ß~}:      eyp
Sißßy© {~J~}:     yup
Obi:              yep
Lilady©:          yes
.ªßJ´.:           not really
~Joy©Æ:           :raising hand
~Joy©Æ:           hehehe
.Deven ÷:         yep yep
GhostRider©Æ:     ae
Hank:             the utility page is at www.accesscom.com/uutils
.ªßJ´.:           k
Bobb *§:          2 u's?
Hank:             it lets you restart, kill the prop file - and a ton 
of other stuff
Hank:             yes - uutils
Jonas {~ß~}:      Yes Bobb
Bobb *§:          ty
Hank:             stands for user utilities
.ªßJ´.:           oh i no that now
Ditzi §ø§:        looking up the passwords was a nice new feature
.ªßJ´.:           i always use restartserver
Hank:             ok - Joy had a Q
~Joy©Æ:           huh?
.ªßJ´.:           you can look up passwords?
*** Page from System: Kandy©*§ made god
Hank:             oh - guess not
~Joy©Æ:           no no
Jonas {~ß~}:      LOL
~Joy©Æ:           hehehe
Lilady©:          ?
Ditzi §ø§:        yes on the utility page
.ªßJ´.:           kewl
Hank:             ok - if anyone has a Q just put up a Q
Lilady©:          how can i change the kill?
Hank:             what do you mean change the kill?
Lilady©:          i want the kill to 2000
Ragdoll:          ^Q
.ªßJ´.:           banip
*** ; `hide on|off             - hide from all other users
*** ; `hidefrom          - hide from another user
*** ; `page               - summon help from an operator
*** ; `respond            - reply to the last sender of an ESP message
*** ; `mute              - mute another user
*** ; `rejectesp on|off        - reject ESP messages
*** ; `rejectprivate on|off    - reject private messages
*** ; `newroom [name]          - Create a new room (one allowed per user)
*** ; `password      - Specify a navigation password
*** ; `repage             - respond to the last (non-operator) page sender
*** ; `er                      - go to the room of last 
(non-operator) page sender
*** ; `list [-k o p w]   - list ip address of specific user
*** ; `list [-k o p w]     - list users matching ip address
*** ; `list [-k o p w]         - list ip addresses of users in room
*** ; `glist [-k o p w]        - list ip address of all users
*** ;                          - LIST OPTIONS
*** ;                          -    -k Show the users reg key hash
*** ;                          -    -o Show the users software 
orignation code and machine type
*** ;                          -    -p Show the users PUID hash
*** ;                          -    -w List only operators
*** ; `paint on|off            - turn painting on or off serverwide
*** ; `bots on|off             - turn cyborgs on or off serverwide
*** ; `death                - set default death penalty to N minutes
*** ; `flood                - kill flooders after N events in 1 second
*** ; `duplicate               - duplicate the current room
*** ; `delete                  - delete the current room
*** ; `banlist [str]           - show banned users
*** ; `purgebanlist            - purge elapsed ban records
*** ; `unban              - unban user(s) who match str (ip or name)
*** ; `untrack            - untrack user(s) who match str (ip or name)
*** ; `banip [minutes]     - ban ipaddress (may use 12.24.23.*; 
numeric IPs only!)
*** ; `trackip [minutes]   - track sign-ons from ipaddress (may 
use 12.24.23.*)
*** ; `kill [minutes]    - kill currently connected user
*** ; `track [minutes]   - track sign-ons from currently connected user
*** ; `comment     - add a comment to a banlist record
*** ; `extend    - change death penalty on a ban record
*** ; `gag               - gag currently connected user
*** ; `ungag             - ungag currently connected user
*** ; `propgag           - propgag a member
*** ; `unpropgag         - unpropgag a member
*** ; `purgeprops           - purge props older than N days from memory
*** ; `autoannounce       - set the server greeting
*** ; `roommaxocc           - set the max occupancy for the current room
*** ; `roommaxguests        - set max guest occupancy for the current room
*** ; `opcount                 - tell how many operators are logged in
*** ; 'defaultpaneurl [pane [url]] - set default pane URL for pane
*** ; 'paneurl  [panenumber [urlstring]] - set pane URL for 
pane in room to urlstring
*** ; 'displayurl [pane number] url [user]   - display URL to a user 
or the room
*** ; `reset                   - reset room counts
*** ; `ban user                - banish a user from the server
*** ; `recycle              - automatically recycle guest ID numbers at N
*** ; `recycle                 - recycle guest ID numbers now
*** ; `shutdown                - shut down the server
*** ; `operatorpass  - set the operator password
*** ; `adminpass     - set the administrator password
*** ; `servername        - set the server name
*** ; `maxserverocc         - set the maximum server occupancy
*** ; `defaultroomocc       - set the default room occupancy
*** ; `picdir        - identify the pictures folder
*** ; `guests on|off           - enable guest access to the server 
(on by default)
*** ; `custom on|off           - enable the user of custom props (on 
by default)
*** ; `operators on|off        - enable support for operators (on by default)
*** ; `opkill on|off           - operators may kill (on by default)
*** ; `playerkill on|off       - members may kill (off by default)
*** ; `spoof on|off            - members may spoof using @x,y (on by default)
*** ; `memberrooms on|off      - members may create their own rooms
*** ; `oponly on|off           - set current room as operator-only
*** ; `uplist N                - move the current room N slots up in 
the room list
*** ; `downlist N              - move the current room N slots down 
in the room list
*** ; `dropzone                - make the current room a drop zone (front gate)
*** ; `botkill on|off          - cyborgs may kill (off by default)
*** ; `author on|off           - operators may author (on by default)
*** ; `passwordsecurity        - enable password security (auto-kicks 
after 3 attempts)
*** ; `fileserver     - set the URL for an external file 
server or turn off file server support.
*** ;                            No parameter returns the current setting
*** ; `avatarurl      - set the URL for finding default 
avatar GIFs, or turn off customized default
*** ;                            avatar support;  No paramater 
returns the current setting.
*** ; `chatlog filename        - enable chat logging to specified file
*** ; `nowhisper on|off        - disables all whispers
*** ; `revision                - revision number of the server
*** ; `flushprops           - flush props older than N days from prop file
*** ; `security :[ ]|
*** ;                          - set the security deamon.
*** ;                            authhost is the URL of the 
authentication daemon
*** ;                            authport is the port of the 
authentication daemon
*** ;                            retrys is an optional field to 
specify how many attempts a user may make.
*** ;                                The default is 1 try
*** ; `securesite on|off       - Name & Password required to access this server
*** ; `securelogoff on|off     - Authentication engine tracks logoffs
*** ; `securejavaaccess on|off - require additional authorization for 
Java users
*** ; `setrank `command [rank] - Set or see rank for `command
*** ; `propcontrol [on|off]    - Turn prop control on or off
*** ; `reportprefs             - Return Current Preference Settings
Ditzi §ø§:        ^Q
.Gemô  ÷:         :raising hand
Hank:             that would be 'death 2000
Lilady©:          ok ty
Hank:             yes rag?
Ragdoll:          is abotu TCM
Ragdoll:          i know is a not a guest
Hank:             tcm?
Nawnie©:          think it is a bot Doll
Ragdoll:          yes i think is like...who's on//
Nawnie©:          like the who's on?
Ragdoll:          yes
Hank:             the who's on bot?
Ragdoll:          it is
Ditzi §ø§:        what the heck is that?
Ragdoll:          but i cut that off
~SuzySpice©ô:     name is TCM now
Ragdoll:          with a command you had
Bobb *§:          wb smokie
~Joy©Æ:           hiya Smokie
Hank:             it's a bot from a webpage
Ditzi §ø§:        tcm has been coming to lady luck too
~SuzySpice©ô:     yes
~SuzySpice©ô:     wb sam
Hank:             tcm is Ty
Smokie©:          ty
Ditzi §ø§:        okay LOL
Ragdoll:          ohhh ok
~SuzySpice©ô:     i thought so
.ªßJ´.:           raises hand
Ragdoll:          thats cool
Nawnie©:          lol
.ªßJ´.:           i got a
~Joy©Æ:           :watcha talking about
Hank:             he's usually just checkin on things
.Gemô  ÷:         what is the max number av's you can put in a prop 
room on this server
Ragdoll:          just wanted to know
Ditzi §ø§:        ^Q
.ªßJ´.:           ?
Ragdoll:          thats cool then
.ªßJ´.:           i got a ?
SwtNita:          TCM comes in to check that everything is working ok
~Joy©Æ:           ooohhhhhhh ok
Hank:             does that answer yur q rag?
Ragdoll:          yes thank you so much
Obi:              ^Q and comment
Hank:             ditzi?
Nawnie©:          :loves Hank.:)
~Joy©Æ:           ^Q
Hank:             :mush
.ªßJ´.:           ^Q
.Gemô  ÷:         ^brb
SwtNita:          lol
Nawnie©:          lol
Ditzi §ø§:        I know this really isnt server related, but 
regarding the site pages i cant get an answer out of palace
~SuzySpice©ô:     :i know mush
.Gemô  ÷:
Hank:             niether can we :-)
Ditzi §ø§:        i cannot get my name on there to save my soul, is 
there a trick to that?
Jonas {~ß~}:      LOL
.Deven ÷:         LOL
Hank:             you need your server reg code
Ditzi §ø§:        its on there
.Deven ÷:         wb hon
Ditzi §ø§:        everything is on there accept my name LOL
.Gemô  ÷:         ty
Hank:             there are still a lot of bugs in the new site pages
Ditzi §ø§:        okay *being patient*
.ªßJ´.:            ye me and carols ids are the same
Hank:             obi?
.ªßJ´.:           ^Q
Hank:             Obi?
Smokie©:          lol
~SuzySpice©ô:     lol
Nawnie©:          giggle
Ditzi §ø§:        hehehe
Obi:              myq is have you considered doing a class on palace 
presents and my comment is that I have a lot of cool tools and a 
couple shell scripts that the gods might be interested in
Hank:             cool
Nawnie©:          woohoo
Hank:             as for palace presents we could do that
Ragdoll:          :love goodies
~SuzySpice©ô:     yes, please obi
Bobb *§:          me too
Nawnie©:          :nod
Hank:             :cept PP kicks my butt big time
~SuzySpice©ô:     me too
.Deven ÷:         hehe
Jonas {~ß~}:      LOL
Hank:             on the scripts - we are trying to set up a mail 
list to share info amongst you all
Lilady©:          whats ur addy obi
Ragdoll:          ^Q
.Deven ÷:         whats a little bruise here and there hank?
Obi:              okay the scripits i was refering to are shell 
scripts for your unix shell account
SwtNita:          I'd be interested to Obi
Hank:             as soon as the UNIX guy gets the T1's tweaked he is 
gonna set up the mail list
Obi:              like one to check for fails without wading through 
your log...
Kandy©*§:         oooooxclent
Obi:              nope telent
Obi:              LOL
Jonas {~ß~}:      LOL
Kandy©*§:         lol
Hank:             most of the people wouldn't be able to use UNIX :-)
GhostRider©Æ:     
Lilady©:          teehee!
~SuzySpice©ô:     kiss kiss!
~Joy©Æ:
Ragdoll:          :UNIX dumass here
Isa:              hey........
Ragdoll:          ^Q
Hank:             we are workin on a lot of log analysis tools
SwtNita:          LOL Rag, me too
GhostRider©Æ:     What's Unix?
~SuzySpice©ô:     oh man GR, lol, setting my borg off
GhostRider©Æ:     
Lilady©:          Damm annoying ppl..
~SuzySpice©ô:     Hey, you goof
~SuzySpice©ô:     oh geesssss
Hank:             ok SJ?
.ªßJ´.:           how do you get someones member code? my listing 
them and how can you ban it?
Kandy©*§:         :shush Kan
.ªßJ´.:           by listing them i mean
Hank:             ok there are three things you can ban by
.ªßJ´.:           uh
Hank:             IP, Reg code, PUID
Hank:             IP is pretty useless
.ªßJ´.:           yes
~Joy©Æ:           hi Munchie and TS2
Hank:             and will not work at all for registered members
Lilady©:          hi munch and ts
Munchie(SJ's):    hi all
TS2:              hello
.ªßJ´.:           i prefer banning by reg but i dunno how
Hank:             palace dosen't even check IP for registered members
SwtNita:          iya munchie
Smokie©:          hi munchie
SwtNita:          hya ts2
.ªßJ´.:           oh
Hank:             ok - to get a regkey - type 'list -k
.ªßJ´.:           o ok
Hank:             to get the PUID type 'list -p
.ªßJ´.:           how would you ban a reg
Hank:             but - version 4.3.2 saves you the effort
Jonas {~ß~}:      ^Q
GhostRider©Æ:     Which is better for ban?
~Joy©Æ:           i like version 4.3.2
Hank:             puid is better - it's a lot harder to change
.Deven ÷:         kewlies
.ªßJ´.:           once you get these things how would you ban them
Hank:             when you ban either a regkey or a PUID on 4.3.2 - 
or a regular kill - it bans both codes automatically
Isa:              great
Ditzi §ø§:        oh thats nice
~SuzySpice©ô:     oh goody
.ªßJ´.:           you type 'ban puid?
.Deven ÷:         excellent
GhostRider©Æ:     cool beans
Smokie©:          cool
~Joy©Æ:           :heh
.ªßJ´.:           n then there number or whatever
Hank:             to kill with a regkey or puid use 'ban key
.ªßJ´.:           o ok
Hank:             one of the biggest mistakes people make in killing 
is trying to ban members through banning IP
Ragdoll:          winks, i am patient person
.ªßJ´.:           hehe yes
Hank:             palace does not check IP for members
.Deven ÷:         lol
Ragdoll:          ^Q
.ªßJ´.:           it only works for people on cable's
Hank:             so an IP ban is useless
.ªßJ´.:           not if the person would be on a cbale modem
~Joy©Æ:           :i know
~Joy©Æ:           hahahaha
Hank:             yes - even then
.ªßJ´.:           oh
.Gemô  ÷:         lol joysie
~Joy©Æ:           :heh
Hank:             palace does not check even IP for members
Hank:             an IP ban will not work against a member - ever
Sißßy© {~J~}:     :lol why is the option there?
.ªßJ´.:           yes
Hank:             it's for guests
Sißßy© {~J~}:     OIC
.ªßJ´.:           it shouldnt be a option than
Sißßy© {~J~}:     thanks
.ªßJ´.:           there arnt many guests anymore
* ~Joy©Æ *        Hank, i think SJ doesn't know about the 'help command?
Hank:             IP ban is the only way to block a guest
Bobb *§:          lol
Obi:              all java are guests
GhostRider©Æ:     besides the fact it changes, every time they connect.
Sißßy© {~J~}:     with the new TVP there will be more
Jonas {~ß~}:
.Gemô  ÷:         yes palace still has guest
.ªßJ´.:           not many
Hank:             ok does that answer the kill q?
.ªßJ´.:           ya
Kandy©*§:         yep
Jonas {~ß~}:      Well pretty much :-)
Hank:             ok sissy?
Sißßy© {~J~}:     it was Jonas
Sißßy© {~J~}:     LOL
Munchie(SJ's):    so banning the key is best?
Hank:             ok - jonas ? :-)
Jonas {~ß~}:      Well I just wondered...
Hank:             yes - banning the keys is the only way
Jonas {~ß~}:      If you can PERMANENTLY kill a java user?
Jonas {~ß~}:      or if they can just come back on another connection
Hank:             not if their IP changes - no
Jonas {~ß~}:      K, thanx
Hank:             you can disallow all jave though
Jonas {~ß~}:      Ahhh
Jonas {~ß~}:      ty
Hank:             if you set 'guests off - no java
Nawnie©:          cool
Jonas {~ß~}:      gotcha
Ragdoll:          :we did that nawns
Hank:             ok rag?
Ragdoll:          ^Q
Ragdoll:          i have 2 q's
Hank:             ok
.ªßJ´.:           i see the no avatar command is in there
Ragdoll:          one is on a ban
Ragdoll:          some of us have a problem with
Ragdoll:          if the user is not there
Ditzi §ø§:        yeah i do
SwtNita:          yes
Ragdoll:          and i find there puid and hash
Nawnie©:          ah yes cant find user..
Ragdoll:          i do a `ban and cut and past that
Ragdoll:          and sometimes say
Ragdoll:          user not found
.ªßJ´.:           )821.wav
Hank:             yur usin ban and not kill?
Ragdoll:          yes
Ragdoll:          if they arent there
Nawnie©:          is big problem
Hank:             and you put in the reg or puid hash?
Ragdoll:          yes tried it both ways
.ªßJ´.:           )819.wav
Ragdoll:          with both
Ragdoll:          and sep
Hank:             so if you wanted to ban me what wud you type?
Obi:              never had that problem I do offline bans all the time
SwtNita:          how
Ragdoll:          i would type,,`ban  {ZHEEAHMIDH}
Hank:             leave off the brackets
Nawnie©:          I dont use the bracets..
Obi:              drop the braces
Ragdoll:          thnks you!!!
~Joy©Æ:           :drop the gun
~Joy©Æ:           :hahaha
Ragdoll:          one more
.Deven ÷:         LOL
Ragdoll:          about a dropzpne
Nawnie©:          but it happens that way too Hank
Lilady©:          do u have to put in a time for the ban or just the 
way doll did it
Hank:             what happens?
Hank:             the user not found?
Ragdoll:          right
Nawnie©:          cant find user
Ragdoll:          do we need to add the time? somewhere in it?
Hank:             ok - if palace says can't find user - it means it 
is not recognizing your key as a reg key or puid
Ragdoll:          :sigh
Hank:             and it thinks you are putting in a name
~Joy©Æ:           hmmm
Nawnie©:          :hmm
Ragdoll:          i knew i tried with brackers and without
Hank:             either you are putting a space after the key - or 
it is not a valid key
~Joy©Æ:           Hank show the right way to do it
Nawnie©:          please.:)
~Joy©Æ:           :use me
~Joy©Æ:           hahaha
Hank:             hmm - it might be a guy using an invalid key
SwtNita:          or me
Obi:              yeah but doesnt palace kill invalid keys?
Hank:             ok to ban me it would be 'ban ZHEEAHMIDH
~Joy©Æ:           no space?
Hank:             That's what I'm wondering Obi
Nawnie©:          not time put in there?
Hank:             no time needed
.Deven ÷:         not for a ban...ban is forever
Hank:             bans are permanent
Ragdoll:          no space needed either?
SwtNita:          what is the max time of a ban?
.Deven ÷:         need time for a kill
GhostRider©Æ:     Default time?
Obi:              I think that they are pasting and catching either a 
leading or trailing space
Hank:             a space between ban and the key - but not after
Sißßy© {~J~}:     yup
Jonas {~ß~}:      Just a space between the command and the key Doll
Sißßy© {~J~}:     been there done that
Ragdoll:          k
Hank:             you may be right Obi
Ragdoll:          :i have made it work
Ragdoll:          :sometimes
.Deven ÷:         lol
GhostRider©Æ:     ^Q
Hank:             I need to see if it will ban an invalid key - hang on a sec
Lilady©:          on if my wiz put a -1 and that bans them for life...
*** can't find ZHEEAHMXXX
Jonas {~ß~}:      Lady...bans are already permanent
Hank:             ok - it will not ban an invalid key
GhostRider©Æ:
SwtNita:          my understanding is a ban/kill only lasts 30,000 max
Hank:             I just made up a key and couldn't ban it
Obi:              okay must be a flashback from when you had to pay 
for the client LOL
Kandy©*§:         hey RH
Jonas {~ß~}:      Kill is the command that needs a time limit
~Joy©Æ:           hiya RedHook :)
Nawnie©:          thats what I was wonderin about was the -1 or time on a ban..
Hank:             kill is timed - ban is permanent
Jonas {~ß~}:      Kill and Ban are not the same
SwtNita:          ok
Nawnie©:          k
RedHook©:         Hi, all
Hank:             ok - the -1 on a kill = permanent
SwtNita:          hiya red
~SuzySpice©ô:     hey there redhook
.Gemô  ÷:         hi redhook
GhostRider©Æ:     hi RH
Nawnie©:          ah..
.ªßJ´.:           ^brb
Hank:             it's a way for a wiz (who cannot use ban) to do a perm ban
~Joy©Æ:           show us
Hank:             like 'kill Hank -1
Sißßy© {~J~}:     please
Obi:              ^Q
Ragdoll:          ^Q about dropzone
Hank:             any more q's about bans and kills?
Hank:             ok - dropzones :-)
Ragdoll:          smile
Ragdoll:          when you change your gate ,, i know you make it dropzone but
Ragdoll:          if you want to use the room somewhere else i want 
to know how to make it not a dropzone
Hank:             you mean the first room on the list?
Ragdoll:          no
Mad Daddy:        :Rag has such good questions
Ragdoll:          i mean
Ragdoll:          i had a gate
Ragdoll:          i moved it
.Gemô  ÷:         as second dropzone?
Ragdoll:          down list
Ragdoll:          it is marked dropzone
GhostRider©Æ:     type 'dropzone off
Ragdoll:          ty ty
Hank:             :what Ghost said
Ragdoll:          thats all i needed
Jonas {~ß~}:      LOL
SwtNita:          lol
~Joy©Æ:           ^Q
Hank:             Obi?
Obi:              CC says that the older serveres will stop 
registering with the dir and etc... does that mean that the 8 user 
palaces are going away since they are dropping low capacity licenses?
Hank:             not sure on that one
Hank:             it might just mean they won't show up on the directory
Hank:             the 8 user license is the free one
Ditzi §ø§:        and thats just like a free horse...most expensive kind ROFL
Sißßy© {~J~}:     the way I understood the TOS
Sißßy© {~J~}:     was that this MIGHT happen in the future
Hank:             not sure - sorry
Hank:             will try to get that answer from CC
Obi:              :just wondering
Mad Daddy:        :pressure
Hank:             Joy?
~Joy©Æ:           are we going to get the minutes or resumÈ of this 
class via email, since some people couldn't attend and ......i forgot 
to save the log...damnabit
Hank:             yes the log will be available
SwtNita:          kewl
~Joy©Æ:           coolies
Ragdoll:          i got it joy
.ªßJ´.:           great
Sißßy© {~J~}:     I got it
.ªßJ´.:           hey hank
~Joy©Æ:           i see some people are not as forgetful as i am....hehehe
Jonas {~ß~}:      The class logs are on the website Joy
Mad Daddy:        :savinganyway
.ªßJ´.:           is there a way if you ban someones ip you can get 
there reg code off there ip
Hank:             nope
~Joy©Æ:           oh ok
.ªßJ´.:           oh darn
Obi:              look it up in the pserver.log if you have access to 
the uutils page
Hank:             just a sec - I got a server emergency
.Deven ÷:         ^Q
~Joy©Æ:           k thanks Obi :)
.Deven ÷:         :ruh ro
~Joy©Æ:           :ut oh....Gem went poof?
.Deven ÷:         yep
Mad Daddy:        :Off to grab a snack
~Joy©Æ:           and offline?
~Joy©Æ:           ack!
.Deven ÷:         still online for me
Hank:             back
~Joy©Æ:           :oh sure
Lilady©:          wb
~Joy©Æ:           lol
SwtNita:          wb
GhostRider©Æ:     wb
.Deven ÷:         lol
Sißßy© {~J~}:     wb
Nawnie©:          Excuse me all....R/L callin..:(
~Joy©Æ:           wb wb :)
Hank:             thanks
.Deven ÷:         ^Q
~Joy©Æ:           see ya Nawnie...*hugs*
~Joy©Æ:           take care girlie
Hank:             ok - yes Dev?
Ragdoll:          hugs nawns
Nawnie©:          thanks for all your help Hank...nice seein ya again.;)
Nawnie©:          @128,151 !)kiss WET and Naughty kiss just for u !!!!!
SwtNita:          take care Nawnie
Hank:             great seein ya nawners
Mad Daddy:        Bye Nawn
.Deven ÷:         the code you can find in your server logs is that 
the PUID or the regcode?
Obi:              it has all
~Joy©Æ:           both
Hank:             both
.Deven ÷:         then which is which?
~Joy©Æ:           :don't ask me
~Joy©Æ:           hahahaha
SwtNita:          LOL
.Deven ÷:         :not askin you joysie
Hank:             the short one is the reg key and the long one that 
starts with a Z is the PUID
~Joy©Æ:           :fine
.Deven ÷:         :so :OP
~Joy©Æ:           neener neener.....Þ
.Deven ÷:         k tanks hank
GhostRider©Æ:     airplanes
Isa:              ^Q
.ªßJ´.:           ye thanks Hank for the help
~Joy©Æ:           fly?
Hank:             does everyone know what a PUID and a reg key are?
.ªßJ´.:           it helped alot
~Joy©Æ:           oooooo fly?
SwtNita:          no
~Joy©Æ:           nope
.ªßJ´.:           i no the reg key but
.ªßJ´.:           not
.ªßJ´.:           puid
Hank:             ok - the reg key hash is a key based on the 
software registration key the user enetered
.Deven ÷:         :now gem offline for me too :O(
SwtNita:          the one they got in email?
.ªßJ´.:           ye
Hank:             it's what you see  when you type 'list -k
.ªßJ´.:           the one they registered for
SwtNita:          ok
Hank:             a problem user can have a dozen reg keys to get around a ban
~Joy©Æ:           *pat* *pat* Deven
Ragdoll:          :lag?
Jonas {~ß~}:      ahhhhhh
SwtNita:          ugh
~Joy©Æ:           say what?????
*** Page from System: Ragdoll has logged off, 9 wizards remain(including you)
~Joy©Æ:           :ut oh
Hank:             the PUID is a code written to the computer when 
they run the palace installer
~Joy©Æ:           :Rags went poof poof too
Hank:             it never changes
SwtNita:          so ban with that instead
Jonas {~ß~}:      ty Hank
SwtNita:          ?
.Deven ÷:         :another one bites da dust
Hank:             even if they deinstall palace and reinstall it
Sißßy© {~J~}:     TY Hank
~Joy©Æ:           :that's a song Deven...
.ªßJ´.:           so the first time you install palace
.Deven ÷:         :duh joy
~Joy©Æ:           Queen!
.ªßJ´.:           ur puid stays forever
~Joy©Æ:           wut?
Munchie(SJ's):    how do u get the puid?
Hank:             some of the more talented snerts have two computers 
- or have figured out how to change the PUID
.Deven ÷:         lol teasin ya
~Joy©Æ:           gonna kick yer butt mistah
Hank:             you get the PUID with 'list -p
Jonas {~ß~}:      type 'list -p Munchie
.Deven ÷:         :wigglin it at ya
~Joy©Æ:           hehe
~Joy©Æ:           ^brb
.ªßJ´.:           thats when u track em ban there reg and puid
Munchie(SJ's):    k thanks
Obi:              ^comment about keys and banning
.Deven ÷:         :uh oh she gettin a bigger boot
.ªßJ´.:           can you track a member code?
Hank:             go ahead Obi
Obi:              importatnt point for people that want offline ban 
capabilities... they have to save session keys right?
Hank:             yes
Hank:             that's on by default
SwtNita:          huh?
.Deven ÷:         and session keys are?
SwtNita:          wb gem
Sißßy© {~J~}:     but is not session keys the reg and not the PUID?
.Deven ÷:         wb baby
Hank:             session keys are the reg key and the puid
.Gemô  ÷:         ouch...thanks
Sißßy© {~J~}:     OIC
.Deven ÷:         ahhh okies
SwtNita:          ok
SwtNita:          ty
.Deven ÷:         *rappin my noggin*
.Deven ÷:         duh
Lilady©:          ^Q
Hank:             go ahead lil
Lilady©:          is there away we can find all of this information 
for all of these things people r talking about
Hank:             :I can't read the name in the corner :-)
Lilady©:          im so confused and im new at this
~Joy©Æ:           wb gem Gem :)
.Gemô  ÷:         thanks mega
Sißßy© {~J~}:     it is Isa
GhostRider©Æ:     Isa been waitin' a while.
Isa:              is there a way to find the size of a single room?
Isa:              lol...sorry
Hank:             yea we're putting together some help pages - plus 
there are manuals on the palace web site
Lilady©:          ok ty
Hank:             finding the size of a room - use our utility page
Sißßy© {~J~}:     size?
Isa:              k, thanks
Hank:             you mean script size right?
Isa:              yes
Sißßy© {~J~}:     OIC
Sißßy© {~J~}:     TY hank
Hank:             there is a 16KB limit on a single room
Hank:             if you violate it - yur server crashes - very dirty :-)
RedHook©:         ^Q
SwtNita:          uhoh
Isa:              uh-huh...found that out the hard way
~Joy©Æ:           oh that's precious info....thanks :)
Isa:              : )
Ditzi §ø§:        lolol
SwtNita:          ohh isa hugz
Hank:             :wish they would just warn you
Obi:              has anyone been able to get a copy of the 4.3.2 
server pdf? everytime I try its 404 File not found
.ªßJ´.:           how do u no ifur over
.Deven ÷:         ^brb
Hank:             no - but I'll get it and post it Obi
Hank:             Red?
RedHook©:         Does that limit include prop rooms?
Hank:             yes
Hank:             especially prop rooms
RedHook©:         ok, thanks
~Joy©Æ:           Gem did you see that?
SwtNita:          yikes
~Joy©Æ:           :shit
Hank:             usually you can get away with 50 props in a single room
Hank:             30 is a better limit to use tho
.ªßJ´.:           i use 20 in each
SwtNita:          whew ty
~Joy©Æ:           alrighty
Hank:             20 is good
Jonas {~ß~}:      Depending on the script your using to view them
Kandy©*§:         yep 20
Hank:             :what jonas said
Isa:              exactly Jonas
~Joy©Æ:           hmmm?
Sißßy© {~J~}:     the prp gen is a factor Joy
Kandy©*§:         which is the bes viewer Jonas?
~Joy©Æ:           oh
SwtNita:          :making note to check size of my prop rooms
Hank:             some prop scripts are bigger than others
Jonas {~ß~}:      If you're using a Next - Back script where you have 
to put prop id's in both scripts...don't go much higher than 20
~Joy©Æ:           ack!
Jonas {~ß~}:      Especially if they are all 9 piece props
SwtNita:          ty jonas
.ªßJ´.:           i use a cheap one it doesnt allow a back button
~Joy©Æ:           thanks :)
Jonas {~ß~}:      yw
Obi:              oour biggest prop room is only 5 K and we stick to 25 max
Kandy©*§:         [[*-*]] thankee
Hank:             one quick intro
Hank:             the guy up by the sign is Lance
SwtNita:          hiya Lance
Hank:             he's a tech support guy
Kandy©*§:         Obi i want ur generator...lol
Sißßy© {~J~}:     Hi Lance
Bobb *§:          Hi lance
Jonas {~ß~}:      Hiya Lance
Hank:             he's learning palace
Ditzi §ø§:        hello Lance
~Joy©Æ:           hiya Lance :)
GhostRider©Æ:     hi Lance
.ªßJ´.:           oh
TS2:              hello all
Hank:             he's a great guy and learning fast
Bobb *§:          welcome to our world
RedHook©:         Hi, Lance
Kandy©*§:         hey Lance
Jonas {~ß~}:      Welcome to Palace life!
SwtNita:          teach me when your done lance
.ªßJ´.:           welcome to the best chat
TS2:              thanks all
~Joy©Æ:           lol Swt
.ªßJ´.:           ever
Jonas {~ß~}:      LOL
Kandy©*§:         lol Swt
Mad Daddy:        Greetings Lance
Obi:              LOL no aol here? no age/sex??? hehe
Lilady©:          hi lance and where is lance
Jonas {~ß~}:      chutup Obi
.Gemô  ÷:         ewwww A word
Jonas {~ß~}:      LOL
~Joy©Æ:           Lance is TS2
SwtNita:          LOL
Lilady©:          ty joy
Hank:             if you call or email during a weekend or evening - 
yur probly talkin to Lance
~Joy©Æ:           yw :)
.ªßJ´.:           oh
~Joy©Æ:           oh
.ªßJ´.:           i usually talk to Ty
Ditzi §ø§:        lucky you Lance
.ªßJ´.:           or somethin
~Joy©Æ:           meaning no cybering and stuff?
Lilady©:          maybe i did a few times
~Joy©Æ:           :hahaha
.Gemô  ÷:         lol nut
~Joy©Æ:           jk!
Hank:             he's new to palace so be gentle :-)
~Joy©Æ:           :ok ok
Jonas {~ß~}:      LOL
.ªßJ´.:           ok
Sißßy© {~J~}:     ooooo virgin
~Joy©Æ:           hahaha
SwtNita:          :always gentle
Kandy©*§:         :Oh! Oh!
.Gemô  ÷:         fresh meat
~Joy©Æ:           love newbies
Lilady©:          u mean we can't break him in
Lilady©:          haha
Jonas {~ß~}:      Down Sissy...down girl
SwtNita:          brb
Ditzi §ø§:        gawd...poor guy
.Gemô  ÷:         LOLOL Joy
Sißßy© {~J~}:     :down
~Joy©Æ:           *smoooooch*
Hank:             :watch out Lance
Sißßy© {~J~}:     theres an idea
Bobb *§:          or lucky
Obi:              )whip
Kandy©*§:         wooohooo
Jonas {~ß~}:      Later Sissy :-)
Lance:            felt goo
Bobb *§:          you go joy
Sißßy© {~J~}:     LOL
~Joy©Æ:           :goo?......gooey?
Bobb *§:          needs a body tho
~Joy©Æ:           :heh
Jonas {~ß~}:      We have to grow up first
Lilady©:          ^Q
Lance:            good
.ªßJ´.:            you work for acceess internet through ur house
~Joy©Æ:           yeah ....we want a body!
Lance:            sorry
Hank:             you guys are embarassing him :-)
Bobb *§:          awwww
.ªßJ´.:           hah
Isa:              somebody dress the guy
Ditzi §ø§:        i would think so
Jonas {~ß~}:      Aw he hasn't turned red yet...
Sißßy© {~J~}:     well that means it is a warm welcome
SwtNita:          you blush easy Lance?
Hank:             YES LIL?
Lilady©:          is there anything we have to change when we start 
up a palace in a hosting server
Hank:             change from a home server you mean?
Lilady©:          or even turn things on
Lilady©:          yes off my puter to u guys
Bobb *§:          woooohooo lance
Kandy©*§:         hehehehehe
.Deven ÷:
Kandy©*§:         wtg
.ªßJ´.:           just send em ur prp file day file
.ªßJ´.:           dat
Hank:             we change all the stuff that has to be changed when 
we set you up
~Joy©Æ:           :fine i'll just cross dress
~Joy©Æ:           sheeesh
Lilady©:          no i mean after im all on the hosting server
.Gemô  ÷:         wb sugar
.Deven ÷:         :ummm go brb for a few an joysie gets sex change?
Hank:             nope - nothing
~Joy©Æ:           LOL
Bobb *§:          lol
Kandy©*§:         lol
Lilady©:          ok but i set my kills and stuff
Hank:             they can stay that way if ya want
.Deven ÷:         lol mega
Lilady©:          can i do any damage by following the list i got for 
the guest, wiz and gods
~Joy©Æ:           wut?
Obi:              you might want to increse the flood limit a lil bit 
when moving from a personal server to hosted...
.Deven ÷:         ya crackin me up
.Gemô  ÷:         :angel my butt
Jonas {~ß~}:      Lance...you can use the arrow buttons to move too
Hank:             not sure what you mean lil
~Joy©Æ:           :giggles
.Deven ÷:         lol yup
.Deven ÷:         :lil sk8ter angel
~Joy©Æ:           uh huh
.ªßJ´.:           dont give him that if a heh
Lance:            thanks j
Jonas {~ß~}:      yw
Lilady©:          ok when i put my palace on ur server i was told i 
had to turn things on
Hank:             like what?
.ªßJ´.:           is it true you guy's may not host anymore server's?
Lilady©:          sorry i don't remember what it was
~Joy©Æ:           :silence?
RedHook©:         ^Q
.ªßJ´.:           hrmm
* Obi *           sorry if i have answered over you its a bad habit I 
am head of my IS dept LOL
Lilady©:          ^Q
Hank:             yes red?
RedHook©:         What agreements have to be made to use Palace in 
commercial applications?
Hank:             you have to have a commercial license
Jonas {~ß~}:      monetary ones? LOL
Hank:             at least that was the answer last month
Obi:              pioneer license is personal right?
SwtNita:          lol
Ditzi §ø§:        lol
* .ªßJ´. *        Is it true you guys may not be hosting any more server's?
Hank:             yes - the commercial licenses are LOTS more expensive
RedHook©:         How much?
Hank:             no SJ - we're still takin servers
* .ªßJ´. *        o ok
Hank:             they are like $5000
Bobb *§:          yikes
SwtNita:          yikes
~Joy©Æ:           ack!
Kandy©*§:         pass
~Joy©Æ:           :gotta win the lottery for sure now
Bobb *§:          me too
Jonas {~ß~}:      They pay for our freebies!
~Joy©Æ:           i paid for palace!
.ªßJ´.:           so did i
~Joy©Æ:           :sigh
.ªßJ´.:           well my member code
Bobb *§:          rookie
Ditzi §ø§:        lol i am now
.ªßJ´.:           but they gave us free 50 codes for paying
Hank:             the whole license thing has changed - so I'm not 
sure of my answers
Bobb *§:          me am i mean
GhostRider©Æ:     *Paid $40 for client*
Bobb *§:          fdree
~Joy©Æ:           ^brb
Hank:             you got a q lil?
Obi:              40? lol i paid 25 sheesh did we get scalped
Lilady©:          what does the 'banlist {str}  mean...want to know 
what the [str] means
.ªßJ´.:           mine was like 35
.ªßJ´.:           for member code
Hank:             ok - the banlist lets you look up a ban
Hank:             the STR can be a regkey, a puid, a name, or an IP
Lilady©:          ok ty
Hank:             but....
Lilady©:          but?
Obi:              ^Q
~Joy©Æ:
Jonas {~ß~}:      That's just to look up a particular one in your 
banlist right?
Hank:             the key you use to look up the ban has to be the 
key that was used to make the ban
.ªßJ´.:           brb
Mad Daddy:        :Hank and his "but"
*** Page from System: .ªßJ´. has logged off, 8 wizards remain(including you)
~Joy©Æ:           heh
Kandy©*§:         LOL
Ditzi §ø§:        LOL
Hank:             :butt?
Sißßy© {~J~}:     LOL
Lilady©:          lol
Bobb *§:          lol
Kandy©*§:         wooohooo
Jonas {~ß~}:      LOL
SwtNita:          LOL hank
.Gemô  ÷:         LOLOL
~Joy©Æ:           :munching
Bobb *§:          bite him Jouy
~Joy©Æ:           hey!
Jonas {~ß~}:      ^Q
Hank:             :watch the ears
~Joy©Æ:           where's my lunch?
~Joy©Æ:           sheesh
SwtNita:          lmao
Hank:             yes Obi?
.Deven ÷:         lol GR
SwtNita:          LOL ghost cute
~Joy©Æ:           awwwww GR....too cute :)
Sißßy© {~J~}:     GR that is GREAT
Obi:              can you clarify the propcontrol command
~Joy©Æ:           hahah Obi
Hank:             yes and no
Kandy©*§:         awww hon!...woooohoooeys
~Joy©Æ:           yes and no?
Hank:             it's new and I don't know a lot about it
Mad Daddy:        :but?
~Joy©Æ:           should i get my angel out too?
Isa:              lol MD
Hank:             I know what it's for - but not the details of usin it
Sißßy© {~J~}:     From what I understand
.Deven ÷:         :joy is buckin for class clown title
Ditzi §ø§:        whats it for?
Obi:              all i get when i turn it on is a message that says 
only gods can add props...
SwtNita:          lol Deven
Sißßy© {~J~}:     the prop control is that they can only wear the 
props in YOUR palace prp
Hank:             it allows you to restrict what props people can wear
~Joy©Æ:           welp
Obi:              kinda made me think of custom off
Isa:              hmmmmm
Mad Daddy:        Cool
Bobb *§:          hmmmm like south park
Kandy©*§:         yep
~Joy©Æ:           :ill be quiet now
Ditzi §ø§:        i dont think ppl would like that
Sißßy© {~J~}:     not sure tho
Ditzi §ø§:        if they could only wear my props...hmmmm
~Joy©Æ:           haha Ditzi
Obi:              :thats why i want that 4.3.2 pdf lol
Hank:             Southpark uses it
Hank:             and everyone hates it
Bobb *§:          i know
Bobb *§:          maintains their theme though
~Joy©Æ:           :hiding
GhostRider©Æ:     Southpark is retarded, to begin with.
Obi:              and their speed
Hank:             Q over on the right?
Isa:              :never been to Southpark...never want to
SwtNita:          :another note, dont go to southpark
Lilady©:          i have noticed the few times when im in the palace 
some of my av disappears off of me
Jonas {~ß~}:      Can the STR in the banlist command also be used to 
find a keyword in your banlist comments?
Hank:             yes and no
Jonas {~ß~}:      LOL
Hank:             the STR is very sensitive to case and such
Isa:              :again with the yes and no?
Obi:              :*nix
Mad Daddy:        LOL Isa
Jonas {~ß~}:      Ok
Hank:             you pretty much have to get the name exactly right
Bobb *§:          ^Q
Hank:             sometimes it will find a partial name
~Joy©Æ:           ^Q
Isa:              ^Q
Jonas {~ß~}:      No I don't mean for names
RedHook©:         bbl
Ditzi §ø§:        bye red
Jonas {~ß~}:      I mean if you put "prop ban" in the COMMENTS for your ban...
Hank:             what else wudya search for?
Hank:             no - you can't ssearch the comments
Jonas {~ß~}:      Oh ok
Obi:              ^wish list items for uutil page
Hank:             Bob?
Jonas {~ß~}:      thanx
Bobb *§:          anyway to combat those with antiallscray?
Kandy©*§:         lol
Bobb *§:          or Macs with a secret
Hank:             yes - there are versions of allscray that cannot be defeated
~Joy©Æ:           ^Q
Hank:             I'll find one and send it out with the class log
Mad Daddy:        :Nuke all Macs
Bobb *§:          where can I find them
.Deven ÷:         :pushy joysie wit her question
Hank:             Joy?
Bobb *§:          ty
~Joy©Æ:           is there a way to see who used a certain script?
~Joy©Æ:           like the blanket one?
Hank:             most of the time yes
Hank:             if you are wizzed up and in the room
Hank:             when it happens
Hank:             otherwise - no
~Joy©Æ:           :i was
~Joy©Æ:           but couldn't see it
~Joy©Æ:           even the god couldn't see it
Hank:             usually the log says "so and so is shouting"
Hank:             then no - no way
~Joy©Æ:           do you have it?
Hank:             there is one trick I use
SwtNita:          I only see that on a few scripts
Hank:             turn off scripts - then watch for who says it
Jonas {~ß~}:      LOL
Sißßy© {~J~}:     to late then
Bobb *§:          lol
~Joy©Æ:           oooooooooo
Jonas {~ß~}:      nice trick Hank
SwtNita:          LOL
~Joy©Æ:           clever!
Mad Daddy:        :Oooo Tricky
Hank:             yes Isa?
Jonas {~ß~}:      Not when someone is on a roll sissy
~Joy©Æ:           :snicker
Isa:              this is a long one....
Hank:             ok
Hank:             go ahead too Obi
Obi:              grep capability to search logs for people that dont 
want to use unix and 2.notification by email of wizfails
Isa:              about props that you sometimes can't see....I've 
been told two different ways to make them appear...
Isa:              dotting...and giving them a unique name
SwtNita:          ohh cute joy
Hank:             how about just a webpage to analyze logs for things 
like wizfails?
Isa:              which is better and why?
Obi:              that would be nice
Hank:             both work Isa
Sißßy© {~J~}:     the new cersion is supposed to address teh prp seeing
Jonas {~ß~}:      All props SHOULD be given a unique name regardless 
of whether you see them or not Isa...
Jonas {~ß~}:      And dotting always works for the stubborn ones
Mad Daddy:        Rarely done
~Joy©Æ:           :o
Isa:              lol Jonas....in a perfect world
Hank:             does everyone understand how props and prop rooms 
work and how to fix em and back em up?
GhostRider©Æ:     It sometimes werks.
Isa:              ok...so name first..then dot if that doesn't work?
Lilady©:          no
SwtNita:          no new to prop rooms
Bobb *§:          no
~Joy©Æ:           a friend of mine couldn't find a corrupted prop?
Bobb *§:          ditto what nita said
Jonas {~ß~}:      Yeah Isa
Hank:             y'all want the quick version of props 101?
Isa:              thanks, Jonas
Mad Daddy:        :Kinda clued in
~Joy©Æ:           in her bag
Bobb *§:          yes
~Joy©Æ:           k
SwtNita:          yes then maybe prop 102 too
Kandy©*§:         go for it Hank
Hank:             ok - the server has a prop bag and everyon's home 
puter has a prop bag
Mad Daddy:        :is this gonna be an all nighter?
~Joy©Æ:           :shh MD
Ditzi §ø§:        ^lol
Ditzi §ø§:
Hank:             when you log on - the server sends yur puter a 
message that says - use the following prop serial numbers
Hank:             and yur client says - I am wearing the following 
prop serial numbers
Hank:             so - yur prop bag at home saves all the props you 
have seen - not just the ones you see when you open yur bag
Hank:             :that's why it gets so big
~Joy©Æ:           lol
~Joy©Æ:           why are some props corrupt?
~Joy©Æ:           what causes it?
Jonas {~ß~}:      They overeat
Hank:             because they get sent back and forth so much
Hank:             bits get corrupted in transmission
~Joy©Æ:           ah
Obi:              :specially at the adult palaces
~Joy©Æ:           :really?
Hank:             ok - so you log on and you see a guy with the left 
side of his face missing
Mad Daddy:        :Hate dem corrupted bits
Hank:             the prop for the left side of his face is corrupt 
either on the server or in yur home bag
~Joy©Æ:           how do you fix it?
Hank:             no real easy way to tell
~Joy©Æ:           or is there a way?
~Joy©Æ:           ah
Hank:             you can do what Isa said - dot the prop or name it
Jonas {~ß~}:      having the dot the missing piece usually always works
Jonas {~ß~}:      having them even
SwtNita:          wb J
~Joy©Æ:           ya mean the pixel thingy?
Hank:             that changes the serial number of the prop and it is resent
Jonas {~ß~}:      yep
~Joy©Æ:           wb SJ
.ªßJ´.:           thanks
Obi:              if its you that have the corrupt prop the server 
will tell you
~Joy©Æ:           k
.ªßJ´.:           man i forgot my gate lock password..
GhostRider©Æ:     Any way to get the corrupted prop out of the bags?
Hank:             the new server versions reject corrupt props
SwtNita:          flush
Hank:             yes - purgew yur home bag
Hank:             if the prop is corrupt there
~Joy©Æ:           oh
Ditzi §ø§:        to correct a corrupt prop...mark only one piece as 
head and resave it
~Joy©Æ:           is it better to purge props after every palace session?
Hank:             if it is on the server you use flushprops and purgeprops
Hank:             does everyone know about the server prop commands?
SwtNita:          use both?
Hank:             not both
SwtNita:          ok
~Joy©Æ:           i aint touching that one
* .ªßJ´. *        is their a way i can get my lock password somewere
~Joy©Æ:           no sireeeeeeeee
SwtNita:          whats the diff then?
Lilady©:          what is the difference between the flushprops and purgeprops
Hank:             when you boot your server, the prop file is read into memory
Hank:             purgeprops effects the memory copy only
SwtNita:          ok
Hank:             flushprops writes the file back to disk
Lilady©:          do u do both?
Hank:             usually do a flush if a purge dosen't help
Mad Daddy:        That is only locally right?
SwtNita:          ok
Hank:             if you have prop rooms - do regular flushes
Jonas {~ß~}:      But show your props to the server first
Ditzi §ø§:        LOL and use bleach
Lilady©:          my prop rooms aren't open yet
~Joy©Æ:           how regular?
Hank:             also - a purge or a flush will kill prop rooms if 
you don't take precautions
~Joy©Æ:           eeeekkkkkk!
SwtNita:          precautions?
Hank:             once a week is a good number Joy
Ditzi §ø§:        yep flash n flush
Mad Daddy:        :Paying close attention now
~Joy©Æ:           k, thanks :)
Lilady©:          what will happen?
GhostRider©Æ:     Does keeping a prop vault, with the props out, on 
the floor prevent that?
Hank:             ok - the purge and the flush don't know one prop 
from another - they will kill the props for yur prop rooms if yur not 
careful
~Joy©Æ:           k what to do then?
Bobb *§:          wear them?
Hank:             there are three ways to save the props for your 
prop rooms from a flush or purge
Bobb *§:          1 a day?
Hank:             1- prop vault - what Ghost said
SwtNita:          whats a prop vault?
GhostRider©Æ:     Look, before you flush. Right?
Ditzi §ø§:        which can fill up alot of rooms real fast
Hank:             have a room where all the props are laying out
Hank:             then the server is always seeing them so it dosen't 
flush them
SwtNita:          ohh ok
Jonas {~ß~}:      Mother gets mad at us for that...too many! LOL
Hank:             2- Flash and Flush
Ditzi §ø§:        lol yep
Hank:             flash means go through yiur prop rooms
Hank:             and look at your props
GhostRider©Æ:     k
Jonas {~ß~}:      :Don't forget your PRIVATE prop rooms for just yourself
Hank:             then when you flush, the server will have just 
'seen' them so it will leave them
SwtNita:          ok
Hank:             3 - Flush and Flash
Hank:             go ahead and flush - and then go in after and fill 
the prop generators back in from yur bag
Jonas {~ß~}:      ^Q
~Joy©Æ:           won't save the props you don't have in your prob 
bag tho..right?
Hank:             yes Jonas?
SwtNita:          no joy wont
Jonas {~ß~}:      Is any one way better than another?
~Joy©Æ:           k
Hank:             no Joy
Hank:             I like the Flush and Flash
Obi:              :I may be anal about it but I keep seperate prop 
bags for authoring and archive them so I can reload my rooms with if 
I lose props
Jonas {~ß~}:      Yeah that sounded more complete
Hank:             ok - a word about your prop bag at home
SwtNita:          me to obi
.Gemô  ÷:         i do too obi
Obi:              4- truncate and restore LOL
Sißßy© {~J~}:     hehe me too now thanks to Obi
Hank:             it has all the props you see when you open it - 
PLUS every prop you have seen
Hank:             yes - what OBI said is right
Mad Daddy:        Is there a way to access all of them?
Hank:             there are two ways to backup your props
SwtNita:          i have a prop bag for each prop room
Hank:             one is our user utility page
Jonas {~ß~}:      Only one bag at a time Mad
GhostRider©Æ:     With a super secret C program, MD.
Hank:             the othe is your local prop bag
SwtNita:          how with the server?
SwtNita:          backups??
Hank:             we have a utility on our page that will shut down 
your server and make a backup copy of the prop file
Hank:             you shud use it after you make a lot of prop changes
Ditzi §ø§:        thats alot easier than downloading the prp file LOL
Hank:             but the quickest and easiest backup is your local prop bag
~Joy©Æ:           yeah what Ditzi said
Hank:             thenif you really get a lot of corrupt props you do 
what Obi said
Hank:             you zero out the prop file and fill back in from 
your local bag
Jonas {~ß~}:      ^Q
Hank:             yes Jonas?
Jonas {~ß~}:      Is there a size limit to the prp anymore?
Jonas {~ß~}:      Before it explodes?
~Joy©Æ:           :good question
Hank:             nope
Ditzi §ø§:        oh cool
Mad Daddy:        :Really really big
Hank:             one last thing about props
Jonas {~ß~}:      Client?
Hank:             the "virgi" prop bag
Hank:             oops
Hank:             I meant virgin prop bag
~Joy©Æ:           :we knew that
Mad Daddy:        :I knew that
~Joy©Æ:           :hehehe
Hank:             if you have prop rooms - get a virgin prop bag
~Joy©Æ:           gives a new meaning to Palace voc
Lilady©:          where do u get it at?
Hank:             that's a prop bag fresh from when you install palace
Obi:              :an "ad" for a  prop utility if I may
Sißßy© {~J~}:     they are at the palace website
Hank:             you can get it from the palace download section on 
their web page
Ditzi §ø§:        lol obi
Mad Daddy:        Cool
Hank:             the reason for a virgin prop bag is.....
SwtNita:          think its download/extras
Mad Daddy:        Pleas do Obi
Hank:             if you want to really check out yur prop rooms - 
use a virgin bag
Hank:             otherwise any problems you see could be in yur ocal bag
Mad Daddy:        :Isa should be able to help me with that
Hank:             yes Obi?
~Joy©Æ:           ^brb
Isa:              lol MD.....virgin?
Obi:              I wrote a prop bag changer for windows that will 
allow you to have unlimited number of prop bags and also save the 
macros associated with EACH bag
Mad Daddy:        Uh-huh
Hank:             cool
Kandy©*§:         ooo Obi!
Obi:              it installs a virgin bag when you add a prop bag
Bobb *§:          wow
GhostRider©Æ:     You stud.
.Deven ÷:         ohhhhh
Hank:             :need to talk to Obi
Obi:              its freeware
Kandy©*§:         give give give plzzzzy!
Sißßy© {~J~}:     LOL
Jonas {~ß~}:      LOL Hank!
Ditzi §ø§:        i think i have it obi
Lilady©:          :whats it called obi?
SwtNita:          :Obi lost me
Hank:             I just got a phone call from someone who 
assasinated their palace
Isa:              where can you get it?
Kandy©*§:         :I wanna take Obi home
Bobb *§:          ooops
Jonas {~ß~}:      Uh oh Hank
Sißßy© {~J~}:     oh no
Obi:              you can download it from my website
Hank:             ok if I go BRB for a few?
Obi:              @10,10 ^My website: http://lexicon.chatserve.com
Captured a URL, see log.
I have captured a possible WWW address from Obi: "http://lexicon.chatserve.com"
SwtNita:          addy obi?
SwtNita:          ty
Isa:              sure Hank
Jonas {~ß~}:      Run hank Run
Hank:             ^brb
GhostRider©Æ:     ty Obi
Bobb *§:          ty obi
Obi:              also have a util that allows you to save alsscray 
commands and such so that youdont typo
Ditzi §ø§:        is that PFM obi?
Obi:              yep
Mad Daddy:        What is it called obi?
Ditzi §ø§:        yeah...thanks
Bobb *§:          woohoo
Lilady©:          ty obi
Kandy©*§:         Thank You! Obi
Kandy©*§:         [[*-*]]
Hank:             they are not there
Bobb *§:          =^..^=
GhostRider©Æ:     o well
SwtNita:          anyplace to find a full list of allscray commands?
Obi:              they are just iptscray
SwtNita:          ok
GhostRider©Æ:     anything you can do in Iptscrae. Swt.
Ditzi §ø§:        Hank...is it suggestion time?
Jonas {~ß~}:      Hey Obi...
Obi:              anything new on the poundprotect command hank?
Jonas {~ß~}:      They were asking for the names of your programs...
Mad Daddy:        Hank is BRB
Hank:             the pound protect command is undocumented
Obi:              PFM for the propbag manager and ptms for the text 
macro sender
Hank:             you want to know about it?
Kandy©*§:         aye
.Deven ÷:         yes
Obi:              i read something in the newsletter but was 
wondering if you have anything new about it
Hank:             ok - the new servers have an undocumented feature 
for pound protection
Hank:             nothing over what's in the newsletter
Hank:             does anyone need an explanation of pounding?
Sißßy© {~J~}:     yup
Isa:              yes
SwtNita:          please
Bobb *§:          yes
Jonas {~ß~}:      Nope
.Gemô  ÷:         yes please
GhostRider©Æ:     ae
SwtNita:          LOL Jonas
Lilady©:          :im lost
Ditzi §ø§:        lol jonas...lets just hope we dont get pounded
Jonas {~ß~}:      Obi's my boss...he told me
SwtNita:          LOL
Isa:              :always wants to hear the explanations
Hank:             ok - pounding is an attack on your server by 
flooding it with invalid packets
Jonas {~ß~}:       :-)
Bobb *§:          yikes
Hank:             a pounder attacks your server without logging on
Hank:             so bans will not stop them
Sißßy© {~J~}:     !YIKES
.Gemô  ÷:         whoaaa
Hank:             the attack is at the packet level
GhostRider©Æ:     The telnet peek?
Hank:             the newer versions have protection against pounding built in
Sißßy© {~J~}:     whew
Hank:             but you have to turn it on
SwtNita:          how?
Hank:             CC says there will be a "minor performance hit" if 
you turn it on
Sißßy© {~J~}:     what  does that mean
Kandy©*§:         ???
Ditzi §ø§:        what does that mean?
Bobb *§:          lagg?
Hank:             to turn it on just type 'poundprotect on
SwtNita:          ok
Hank:             from what I can see so far - the "minor performance 
hit" is unnoticeable
Bobb *§:          kewl
Hank:             but I haven't done much testing
Mad Daddy:        That is what is also known as a "denial of service" 
attack correct?
Hank:             what pound protection does is.........
Hank:             if it sees more than a certain number of packets 
from the same IP within a second - it locks out that IP
Isa:              cool
SwtNita:          kewl
Kandy©*§:         whoaaaa great
Hank:             yes - pounding is a denial of service attack - and 
a federal crime
Mad Daddy:        aka mass pinging
Hank:             we have turned over three pounders to the FBI since 
we started hosting palaces
Isa:              does that work for people who are using scripts to 
lag out the server to?
Sißßy© {~J~}:     in otherwards if someone does a mass pingin
Sißßy© {~J~}:     yeah what MD said
Hank:             it is more than a mass pinging
.Gemô  ÷:         wow
Hank:             mass pinging uses valid packets
Sißßy© {~J~}:     ahhh
Hank:             pounding uses garbage packets
Mad Daddy:        Okay
Hank:             the server has to spend time trying to figure out 
each garbage packet - and gets bogged down
Obi:              ;note to self stop pounding hank NOW
Isa:              lol Obi
Jonas {~ß~}:      LOL Obi
Kandy©*§:         lol
Mad Daddy:        LOL obi
Sißßy© {~J~}:     LOL Obi
~Joy©Æ:           well guys....i'm off..thanks for the info.....was great :)
Sißßy© {~J~}:     ok so will it revers the pounding
Hank:             :thas OK OBI - I'm sending you some nice people to 
talk to you :-)
SwtNita:          take care Joy
Jonas {~ß~}:      Night Joy
Lilady©:          bye joy
.Deven ÷:         laters mega
Sißßy© {~J~}:     and shut THEM down
~Joy©Æ:           you all take care :)
GhostRider©Æ:     Laterz, Joy.
Kandy©*§:         toodles Joy...take care
Bobb *§:          bye Joy
~Joy©Æ:           :poof
.Gemô  ÷:         later megas
Ditzi §ø§:        bye joy
*** Page from System: ~Joy©Æ has logged off, 7 wizards remain(including you)
Hank:             bye Joy
Jonas {~ß~}:      You can't "reverse" a pounding Sissy
Jonas {~ß~}:      But it will ban their IP
Sißßy© {~J~}:     thats a shame
Obi:              :you can but its illegal
Mad Daddy:        LOL
Hank:             :what Obi said
Jonas {~ß~}:      LOL as I said Obi...
Isa:              lol Obi
Jonas {~ß~}:      LOL
Lance:            later joy
Jonas {~ß~}:      Two wrongs make four cuffs...
GhostRider©Æ:     Anything's legal, if you don't get caught.
Hank:             anyone got any security rumors/questions/etc?
Ditzi §ø§:        i have a suggestion
Isa:              I have a question about allscray
Hank:             ok
SwtNita:          yes.. anything being done about cey`tan
Hank:             who's that?
GhostRider©Æ:     A major Jerk.
SwtNita:          he hacked 2 sites, killed 118 rooms in Dawn2Dusk
Isa:              yup
Sißßy© {~J~}:     lol
Hank:             send me his info
Sißßy© {~J~}:     yeah he sure did
Jonas {~ß~}:      Ouch
.Gemô  ÷:         gotta run...thanks for everything hank.
SwtNita:          ok i have it in mail
Hank:             I'll talk to his ISP
.Gemô  ÷:         have a good one folks
Jonas {~ß~}:      Night Gem
Obi:              yes... how secure is the uutils page? especially 
since our passwords are up there...
SwtNita:          I got a mail he had 3 or 4 IPs
.Deven ÷:         yep yep..laters all
Ditzi §ø§:        bye
Obi:              nighht gem
Kandy©*§:         u too Gem...hugggerz
.Deven ÷:         tanks for the info hank
Hank:             they are as secure as yur passwords
Isa:              his IP is an AOL...so it doesn't matter
Jonas {~ß~}:      I think that's the question Hank...LOL
Jonas {~ß~}:      How secure ARE our passwords? LOL
Ditzi §ø§:        ^suggestion
Hank:             question for you all - I have mixed feelings about 
the password lookup utuility
SwtNita:          I dont like it
Obi:              i dont like it either
Hank:             is it a handy feature or a security risk?
Jonas {~ß~}:      Risk
Isa:              both
SwtNita:          risk
GhostRider©Æ:     *Never seen it*
Jonas {~ß~}:      IMO
Kandy©*§:         Risk
Lance:            risk
Bobb *§:          risk
Ditzi §ø§:        i love it because to lock a room there is no double 
command to enter the password
Hank:             I agree
Obi:              packet sniffer means your smoked
Hank:             we'll take it down
Ditzi §ø§:        so if you mistype it...then you cant find it
Bobb *§:          write it down
Bobb *§:          off the puter
Ditzi §ø§:        yes but if you make a typeo...then you cant get in
Hank:             the alternative is if you lose yur wiz and god 
words you will have to contact us to get it
Obi:              thats acceptable
Jonas {~ß~}:      I'd rather do that hank
Kandy©*§:         yep
Bobb *§:          nods
GhostRider©Æ:     Gotta edit the pscript, Ditz.
Hank:             ok - that's how I feel about it too
Hank:             thanks for the confirmation :-)
Obi:              now if only you used secure login on telnet LOL
Ditzi §ø§:        is that info in the dat file?
Jonas {~ß~}:      LOL go Obi
GhostRider©Æ:     YEah. The dat.
Hank:             the passwords are in the dat file yes - encrypted
Ditzi §ø§:        k
Ditzi §ø§:        well chit i cant read encrypted
GhostRider©Æ:     I use SCI, too. There, it's the pscript.
Hank:             our shell does support secure shell Obi
Isa:              room passwords are encrypted too?
Hank:             yes Isa
Obi:              great I will start using it then thx!
Ditzi §ø§:        good thing chatserve is halfway local...ill just call LOL
Obi:              if they get your dat it doesnt matter you are 
through until you fix the security hole IMO
Hank:             yea for you Ditzi :-)
Ditzi §ø§:        ^suggestion
Hank:             yes?
Ditzi §ø§:        i think the email list to hook up all chatserve 
palaces is an excellent idea....and
Hank:             :and?
Ditzi §ø§:        i think there should be a way for publicity....in 
addition to the announcements on the palace page
Hank:             like what?
Mad Daddy:        Special palace events?
Ditzi §ø§:        like upcoming events...or new and exciting rooms
Hank:             we have a listing on our web site
Hank:             ok
Obi:              use a sign as your entry av then go hopping LOL
Jonas {~ß~}:      LOL Obi...
Isa:              lol Obi
Ditzi §ø§:        would be nice to have another form of publicity
Hank:             hey Obi?
Mad Daddy:        LOL Obi
Jonas {~ß~}:      :done that
Bobb *§:          lol
Obi:              ruh roh...busted yes hank?
Jonas {~ß~}:      LOL
SwtNita:          lol
Lilady©:          lol
Hank:             can I steal that AV? :-)
Jonas {~ß~}:      LOL
Sißßy© {~J~}:     LOL
Kandy©*§:         lol
SwtNita:          LOL
Obi:              you can have it
Sißßy© {~J~}:     man he has had that for YEARS
Hank:             !THANKS!!
Obi:              give it back
GhostRider©Æ:     It is a cutie.
Obi:              LOL
Isa:              lol
Mad Daddy:        :Hank be a happy camper
Jonas {~ß~}:      LMAO
SwtNita:          lol Obi
Kandy©*§:         aye it is...lol
Hank:             you said I cud have it :-P
Obi:              LOL hank
Isa:              time for an allscray Q?
Hank:             ok Isa
Hank:             :gonna yotefy this
Isa:              it's about the script that stops allscray from working
Hank:             anti-allscray - yes
Isa:              you said there is a version that gets around that, right?
Hank:             yup
GhostRider©Æ:     !Death to antiscray!!
Kandy©*§:         awww hon!...lol
Hank:             I'll find it and add it to the log of this class
Obi:              just kill em LOL no script blocks that
Isa:              ok.....what about the people that try to use 
allscray on a god to get the passwords in a palace?
Mad Daddy:        LOL
Kandy©*§:         Hank..do both?
Hank:             there is no way to use allscray to get a password - but......
SwtNita:          yikies Isa
Jonas {~ß~}:      That's when ban comes in handy Isa
Jonas {~ß~}:      LOL
SwtNita:          but again
Mad Daddy:        :but again
Isa:              if the allscray protection doesn't work, are we at 
risk again?
Ditzi §ø§:        well it happened to me
Hank:             if yur allscray is set up so that non wiz/gods can 
access it....
Isa:              I've seen it done, Hank
Hank:             then people can use wizzes and gods like bots
Isa:              exactly
Hank:             but they cannot get the password
Isa:              and I have the allscray stop thing to prevent that
Obi:              use ao and restrict it to badge wearing wizards...
Isa:              but...should I have something else?
Hank:             :what Obi said
SwtNita:          you mean the stars obi?
Isa:              don't allow as?
Hank:             ^phone
Ditzi §ø§:        and what is that text string exactly?
Isa:              in the palace at all?
Obi:              on my webpage
Obi:              LOL
Mad Daddy:        LOL
Jonas {~ß~}:      LOL
GhostRider©Æ:     as...ao...doesn't matter, as long as you restrict 
to badged ppl.
Kandy©*§:         :got that booked
Sißßy© {~J~}:     plethera of info on that site
SwtNita:          gonna have a lota visits to your web page
Mad Daddy:        :Obi is going for 100K hits
Jonas {~ß~}:      LOL
Ditzi §ø§:        is that a string we should put in the gate?
Ditzi §ø§:        or in our borg?
Obi:              and in each room you want to use it
Obi:              no not the borg
GhostRider©Æ:     It is part of the core scray script, at the gate.
SwtNita:          :sigh
Isa:              what does it do exactly, Ghost?
Isa:              looks for the *?
Ditzi §ø§:        so if its at the gate and it is global then we are 
protected right?
GhostRider©Æ:     It is an if statement, that checks the name for a star.
Isa:              k, Ghost
Obi:              LOL you can make alscay do all kind of fun things
Isa:              we have that
GhostRider©Æ:     No Star, no go.
Isa:              but I have seen someone come into the 
palace...without the star
Isa:              take over a god
SwtNita:          ouch
Isa:              and run with it
Kandy©*§:         yikes!
Jonas {~ß~}:      Only wiz/gods can wear the star
Ditzi §ø§:        and sent me to kids nation...ROFL
Isa:              right
Mad Daddy:        LOL
GhostRider©Æ:     Take over, how?
SwtNita:          LOL Di
Bobb *§:          how isa
Obi:              probably because the god used zombie in his/her borg
Obi:              DUMB move
GhostRider©Æ:     Not if the scray and their borg are right.
Isa:              dunno, Ghost....he said he did it with allscray
Ditzi §ø§:        it wasnt a god or a wiz and i was goded up
Lilady©:          i have a wiz that can pin a god in his borg
Isa:              that's when we put the stop allscray commands in our borg
Mad Daddy:        : I think we should all make a point of visiting Obi's page
SwtNita:          that can be gotten around tho Isa
Kandy©*§:         :hmmm need that too then
Obi:              never ever have zombie in your borg if you are a wiz
Isa:              yeah..he was a guest...we were gods
Ditzi §ø§:        then he changed the god password too
Kandy©*§:         noted Obi
Isa:              yup...locked us out of the palace
GhostRider©Æ:     How did he get the pw?
SwtNita:          damn Di, did you know who he was?
Ditzi §ø§:        yeah
Isa:              he was just playing...not malicious
Ditzi §ø§:        i dunno ghost...from his borg
Isa:              showing us what peeps could do
Kandy©*§:         dam!
Bobb *§:          ditto1
Bobb *§:          !
Kandy©*§:         u thinkn what i'm thinkn bb
Mad Daddy:        :waving hand wildly, "I think I know who it is"
Sißßy© {~J~}:     did you find out how he got the PW
Ditzi §ø§:        so we were told if we put anti scray in our 
borg...then that couldnt happen
Isa:              any suggestions?
SwtNita:          I know someone who had gotten around peps with 
anitallscray in their borgs
GhostRider©Æ:     That doesn't explain how he got the godpass.
Ditzi §ø§:        he didnt get it...he changed it
Sißßy© {~J~}:     did he tell you how he changed it
GhostRider©Æ:     You can't change pws without first having it.
Obi:              the godpass should NOT be in your borg
Isa:              it's not
Obi:              but if you have zombie enabled and he "zombies" you 
then he can make you change passwords and etc
Isa:              but what I'm wondering is about the stuff that 
stops the anti-allscray
Jonas {~ß~}:      You can't change the god pw unless you are a God
Isa:              he did it without being a god, Jonas
Ditzi §ø§:        i dont think i have zombie
Mad Daddy:        What Obi said
GhostRider©Æ:     With say...ahhhhh... *LIGHTBULB*
GhostRider©Æ:     Does that werk?
Kandy©*§:         know that..
SwtNita:          is lightbulb, halo, etc zombi??
Ditzi §ø§:        dont have zombie in my borg
Isa:              what is a zombie?
Obi:              when hank gets off the phobne I would like to try something
Isa:              explain that please?
Mad Daddy:        :Obi is going to breath fire?
Obi:              zombie is a script that allows someone else to 
control your client
Ditzi §ø§:        with zombie in there they execute a command...that 
makes you change it only you dont know it
SwtNita:          obi blonde here, dunno what you mean
Isa:              without your consent? and how do you stop it?
GhostRider©Æ:     Don't put it in your borg.
Jonas {~ß~}:      take zombie outta yer borg
Ditzi §ø§:        make sure you dont have zombie in your borg
Mad Daddy:        Why would anyone want that in their script?
Isa:              never heard of it before...I don't have it
Ditzi §ø§:        cept i dont have it so i still dont know how he did it
Sißßy© {~J~}:     do you have to have it in YOUR borg for them to be 
able to use it?
Obi:              for bots mainly
Kandy©*§:         me neither...
GhostRider©Æ:     DMSB?? Who knows.
Bobb *§:          dom/sub?
Jonas {~ß~}:      yes Sissy
Sißßy© {~J~}:     ty
GhostRider©Æ:     ^BRB
Mad Daddy:        Hmmm
Hank:             back
Isa:              wb
Bobb *§:          wb hank
Lilady©:          wb
Ditzi §ø§:        wb
Kandy©*§:         w/b Hank
SwtNita:          wb hank
Jonas {~ß~}:      :ooh goodie
Hank:             thanks
Jonas {~ß~}:      wb Hank
Hank:             :love this AV Obi
Mad Daddy:        :Have to remember to zombify scriptsI hand out
Jonas {~ß~}:      Now we can watch Obi make Hank his guinea pig....
Isa:              lol MD
Obi:              hank we have been having a discussion on zombie and 
passwords I have a proposition for you
Hank:             ok
GhostRider©Æ:     DMSB=Dum Sum Bit
Obi:              but i would like to try it later in private and you 
can email the results to the palace owners
Hank:             :is this gonna hurt?
Kandy©*§:         w/b and LOL
SwtNita:          LOL hank
Mad Daddy:        Awwwwwwwwwww
Bobb *§:          awwwwwwwww
Ditzi §ø§:        LOL
Obi:              kind of make them feel better about the whole thing
Mad Daddy:        I wanna watch
Hank:             feel bvetter about what?
Bobb *§:          me too X2
Lilady©:          me too..
Obi:              the password changing by allscray issue
Jonas {~ß~}:      You gotta lotta scrollin to do Hank...LOL
Hank:             ah
Ditzi §ø§:        lol
Hank:             I see
Mad Daddy:        :Obi is on top of this stuff
Hank:             if yur allscray is set up wrong - a snert could use 
a god to set the passowrds
Kandy©*§:         dang
Obi:              yep
Hank:             wow - that's right
Obi:              or a mad wiz...
Mad Daddy:        :aha
Ditzi §ø§:        so do a search for zombie on our borg?
GhostRider©Æ:     Got the essence; but, what exactly is a snert?
Isa:              uh-huh
SwtNita:          then just how should it be set up to block that?
Hank:             a snert is just a generic name for a troublemaker
Jonas {~ß~}:      :snert
Obi:              LOL Jonas
Hank:             zombie has nothin to do with it
Mad Daddy:        :Snert Daddy?
Isa:              yes...how do we know we have that blocked?
Ditzi §ø§:        uh oh
Hank:             yur allscray has to be set up so it is accessable 
only to wizzes and gods
Isa:              did that...didn't help
SwtNita:          can you add that to the log then Hank?
Sißßy© {~J~}:     psst
Hank:             sure
Isa:              he got in anyway
GhostRider©Æ:     Also, set it to not effect staff.
Hank:             who?
Obi:              isa you probably didnt restrict it
SwtNita:          :need allscray classes
Isa:              restrict it how? besides the * thing?
Obi:              take a peek at my website it shows the restricted 
and NON restricted versions
Ditzi §ø§:        so you will put instructions on how to restrict this?
Isa:              ok, Obi
GhostRider©Æ:     That's hoe, I.
SwtNita:          ok obi
Mad Daddy:        :Listen to Obi Isa, he has a ray gun
Hank:             log onto your palace and try to use allscray to get 
someone to saysomething - without wizzing up
GhostRider©Æ:     how, even
Jonas {~ß~}:      LOL MD
Isa:              with msay?
Hank:             if you can use allscray without wizzing up - that 
is a MAJOR security problem
Hank:             no - allscray
GhostRider©Æ:     not msay. just say
Isa:              well, I can't use it without wizzin up...but he did
Ditzi §ø§:        thats right
Obi:              like as 'godpass iownyounowhahahahahaha
GhostRider©Æ:     Is there scray in here?
Isa:              how did he do that?
Obi:              *wink*
Hank:             not sure - Obi?
Obi:              huh hank?
Bobb *§:          ;allscray "Yes" say
Bobb *§:          nope
Hank:             why wud a non wiz be able to allscray
Isa:              lol Bobb
Ditzi §ø§:        something in his borg allowed him to
Obi:              some palaces think its a cool way to let nonmembers 
play with scripts
*GhostRider©Æ:    ;as "Hank be da bomb." say
Bobb *§:          yikes
Obi:              a throwback to the pay for palace days
Isa:              yeah, he said he had something in his borg that got around it
*GhostRider©Æ:    No werky.
Obi:              very dangerous as hank said
Hank:             :I don't have allscray here
Bobb *§:          nope
Obi:              snerts tend to lie and make you think they are 
smarter than they are
Ditzi §ø§:        lol
Isa:              but I saw him do it ,Obi...dunno how he did it, but he did
Hank:             ok guys I gotta run work at the fair
Isa:              I thought someone here might know?
Ditzi §ø§:        thank god he was a friend and was alerting us
GhostRider©Æ:     Thanx a bunch, Hank.
Jonas {~ß~}:      Thanks for your time Hank
Kandy©*§:         k Hank ...thanx...very informative
Sißßy© {~J~}:     thanks for EVERYTHING Hank
Obi:              if you have allscray for everyone he could
SwtNita:          nice to meet you hank thank you
Isa:              thanks Hank
Bobb *§:          thanks hank
Sißßy© {~J~}:     very educational
Lilady©:          ty hank and have a nice time
Obi:              have a great day hank
Ditzi §ø§:        thank you Hank
GhostRider©Æ:     Where's yer palace, Isa?
Kandy©*§:         and we will get the log with the goodies right/
Mad Daddy:        :I think if anyone knew it would prolly be Obi
Hank:             I'll post the log
Kandy©*§:         okies
Bobb *§:          when?
Hank:             feel fre to stay and chat
SwtNita:          kewl gonna need it
Sißßy© {~J~}:     carreful MD
Isa:              you wanna come steal the passwords, Ghost?...LOLOL
Kandy©*§:         will check back for it
Hank:             today
Bobb *§:          cool
Obi:              gr can you go to isas and see if you can allscry as 
a non wiz?
GhostRider©Æ:     Just see if I can finger it out, fer ya.
Hank:             ok have a blast all - thanks for comin
SwtNita:          where will it be posted at?
Kandy©*§:         Fantastic! huggggy
Hank:             Obi - we'll talk :-)
Mad Daddy:        Thanks Hank
Isa:              k, Ghost....ladyluck.chatserve.com
Hank:             it will be on our web page
Kandy©*§:         k
SwtNita:          ty
Hank:             :poof
GhostRider©Æ:     got it.
Obi:              i am on a firewall so I have to add her to go there
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